From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 9 22:32:23 2008 Date: 09 Sep 2008 22:32:23 -0700 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA Message-ID: <1221024743@chandra> X-IMAP: 1221024740 0000001055 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 15 17:44:33 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3G0iWQ26209 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304160044.h3G0iWQ26209@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:44:33 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Fugu To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: e5UnQsz6AkeRszqfuSRwDQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 252 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 Just as I was pondering the question of how to get scp working on my mac, Fugu 1.0 was released. Go to the "Get Mac OSX Software" and search for it. Does SFTP, SCP and SSH within a nice interface. No more command line ftp for me. I love Fugu. From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 15 23:59:21 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3G6xKQ04551 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 23:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304160659.h3G6xKQ04551@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 23:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: doublesided printing To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ebkzGoy5ixTqn9UgkAaF/Q== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 460 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 This is something that I just discovered and maybe others want to know. If you want to print double sided (in OS X) on one of the network printers: In the print window there's a drop down menu (below Printer and Presets) that reads "Copies and Pages" by default. Click it, select the duplex option and check the "Print on Both Sides" box. If anyone knows how to set this up as the default option, please let me know. Let hear it for the trees- Andrew From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:30:05 2003 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHU4Q25497 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHU4R15913 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@meso To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Printing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 680 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 Hi guys, Has anyone figured out how to print from a locally networked G4 laptop to any of the local printers? Of course I can just ssh in and lp at the command line (in X or just terminal), but if I wanted to drive my printing from a laptop file and program (such as Adobe Illustrator), how would I do it? I am particularly interested in the color printer on the 5th floor, which shows up, sorta, on rendevouz. Thanks -Josh * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From colby@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:48:12 2003 Received: from celestial.Berkeley.EDU (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHmCQ26360; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHmBm13382; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:11 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Josh Goldston cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, Subject: Re: Printing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1349 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 Last I'd heard from Kelley, this is a nono, unless your username is the same, or someother thingie lets the print spoolers know who you are. I'd recently gotten some feedback from someone with a windows box, trying to print, who got a different story about printing from non-nis+ integrated systems. I think it would be good to have clarification of the policy. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Josh Goldston wrote: > Hi guys, > > Has anyone figured out how to print from a locally networked G4 laptop to > any of the local printers? Of course I can just ssh in and lp at the > command line (in X or just terminal), but if I wanted to drive my printing > from a laptop file and program (such as Adobe Illustrator), how would I do > it? I am particularly interested in the color printer on the 5th floor, > which shows up, sorta, on rendevouz. > > Thanks > -Josh > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * > * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * > Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 > Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 > ** * * * ** * * * ** > > > From kelley@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:51:50 2003 Received: from beast (beast [128.32.92.126]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HHpnQ26554; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304171751.h3HHpnQ26554@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:51:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelley McDonald Reply-To: Kelley McDonald Subject: Re: Printing To: goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU, colby@astron.berkeley.edu Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, central@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ex/ctVJF0rrGBnoYxd9FSQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 2200 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 Not really a nono...you just have to do it correctly. Paul, Could you post to this group the correct OS X steps to configure it to print. And yes, you MUST have your user name on the Mac bbe exactly the same as your username on the Suns. Windows boxes are currently not allowed to print to the networked printers. Kelley >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:11 -0700 (PDT) >From: James Colby Kraybill >To: Josh Goldston >cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, >Subject: Re: Printing >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >Last I'd heard from Kelley, this is a nono, unless your username >is the same, or someother thingie lets the print spoolers know >who you are. > >I'd recently gotten some feedback from someone with a windows box, >trying to print, who got a different story about printing from >non-nis+ integrated systems. I think it would be good to have >clarification of the policy. > >- Colby > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory >colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > >On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Josh Goldston wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Has anyone figured out how to print from a locally networked G4 laptop to >> any of the local printers? Of course I can just ssh in and lp at the >> command line (in X or just terminal), but if I wanted to drive my printing >> from a laptop file and program (such as Adobe Illustrator), how would I do >> it? I am particularly interested in the color printer on the 5th floor, >> which shows up, sorta, on rendevouz. >> >> Thanks >> -Josh >> >> * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * >> * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * >> Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 >> Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 >> ** * * * ** * * * ** >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------ Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:58:24 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HHwNQ27078 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304171758.h3HHwNQ27078@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: printing To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: fvYNcszhuSfgQTFb0eQxZQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 653 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 Yes, your user name's have to match, and you have to ask Kelley to authorize you to print from the laptop. The general instructions for the setup in Mac OS 10.2.3 are: 1) Open Hard Disk --> Applications --> Utilities --> "Print Center" 2) Select the "Add" icon, or menu "Printer" --> "Add Printer" 3) In the window that opens, select "IP Printing" from the top menu bar. 4) Put astron.berkeley.edu in the "Printer's Address" window or you could put in 128.32.92.108 5) Put p433, or p544, or color in the "Queue Name" window 6) Printer models: p433-->HP LaserJet 4050 series p544-->HP LaserJet 8150 series color->HP color LaserJet 4600 From plonsey@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 11:54:17 2003 Received: from sunra (sunra [128.32.92.89]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HIsGQ00231 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304171854.h3HIsGQ00231@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Plonsey Reply-To: Dan Plonsey Subject: mac faq To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tAhqqGyr+/RKGl1XOrnZ5g== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 258 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 Hi Macusers, It seems to me that a Mac FAQ on the department web site would be useful - I'll begin with what I've saved from all of the macusers emails. If someone's already started something like this let me know before I duplicate your efforts! Dan From plonsey@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 16:21:31 2003 Received: from sunra (sunra [128.32.92.89]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HNLUQ10794 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304172321.h3HNLUQ10794@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Plonsey Reply-To: Dan Plonsey Subject: mac FAQ To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: hp52Or3i+CXkNbhEaz+YlQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 129 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 Hi mac users, I've started a mac faq: http://astron.berkeley.edu/computing/macfaq.html Send me additions & corrections. Dan From dsm@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 09:57:23 2003 Received: from virgo.Berkeley.EDU (virgo [128.32.92.234]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MGvMQ08471 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dsm@localhost) by virgo.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MGvLg02109 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: virgo.Berkeley.EDU: dsm owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Madgwick X-X-Sender: dsm@virgo To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Memory usage on Macs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 783 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 Hi, Does anyone know if there is some kind of limit used by Apple to the amount of memory a program can use. I'm trying to compile a program on my G4 Powerbook (512MB of ram) which reads in an array with 1 million elements. I can compile this fine with gcc, but I always get a Segmentation fault when I try to run it. I've included a copy of this program at the end of this email. I'm sure the program is fine, as it runs perfectly on a Sun with a similar amount of RAM. Also I should easily have enough unused memory on my laptop to hold this array! Thanks, DSM -------------------------- PROGRAM ------------------------------- #include #include #include #define NGAL 1000000 int main() { float galcat[NGAL+1]; } From mwhite@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 11:06:05 2003 Received: from cmb (cmb [128.32.92.71]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3MI62Q11671; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304221806.h3MI62Q11671@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin White Reply-To: Martin White Subject: Re: Memory usage on Macs To: dsm@astron.berkeley.edu Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Ad3GAdSsgp/9KL7lqHa5GQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.4.8 SunOS 5.8 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 452 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 Darren, Looks to me like a stack/heap size limit problem. Try dynamically allocating the array instead of statically. So float *galcat galcat = malloc( (NGAL+1)*sizeof(float) ); if (galcat==NULL) {perror("malloc");exit(1);} .... free(galcat); Alternatively find the O/S parameters which define the stack and global memory/heap sizes for programs and increase them. I doubt the O/S was set up for high performance computing! M. From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 12:00:01 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3MJ01Q14389 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304221900.h3MJ01Q14389@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: battery discharging To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: N1ke6tJA5WJVsQvrD39FTQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 361 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 Hi, A question for those of you who have Titanium powerbooks, and OS 10.2.3 or later: When you have the powerbook **continuously** connected to AC Power, and you view the percent battery charge, do you find that the battery charge drops about 1% per day? (Eventually it drops to 94% and the battery uses the AC power to recharge to 100%). Thanks, Paul From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 12:35:45 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3MJZiQ15713 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304221935.h3MJZiQ15713@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: Re: battery discharging To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: KO7o4pjwQ6D3NkwyfPAA2w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 313 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 Paul et.al.- I think I have noticed this, though I've only had the power drop to 98% while continuously connected. I also thought that it was good for the battery life to periodically (say once a month or so) drain it completely. Does anyone know if this is necessary for the Powerbook batteries? -Andrew From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 12:50:41 2003 Received: from kerns.Berkeley.EDU (kerns [128.32.92.123]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MJocQ16235 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by kerns.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MJocc22414 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:50:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kerns.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:50:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@kerns cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: battery discharging In-Reply-To: <200304221900.h3MJ01Q14389@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 991 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 Regarding the fluctuating power meter...I've noticed this too. I've looked into this and it turns out this behavior is normal and is supposed to occur. Apple mentions something about on their website - it's some kind of power saving feature. So no need to worry. ================================================================ Louis-Benoit Desroches (510) 642-2359 Graduate Student louis@astro.berkeley.edu Astronomy Department astron.berkeley.edu/~louis University of California, Berkeley 601 Campbell Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, paul kalas wrote: > Hi, > > A question for those of you who have Titanium > powerbooks, and OS 10.2.3 or later: > > When you have the powerbook **continuously** connected to AC Power, > and you view the percent battery charge, do you > find that the battery charge drops about 1% per > day? (Eventually it drops to 94% and the battery > uses the AC power to recharge to 100%). > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Apr 23 12:51:06 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3NJp6Q19664 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3NJp4j23648 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:51:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:51:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: clipboard... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 139 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 I just noticed something... the upgrade to OS X 10.2.5 vastly improves the cut and paste between X and Aqua... no more "Copy XtoX". Joe From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Apr 25 10:25:34 2003 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3PHPXQ25554 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304251725.h3PHPXQ25554@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: VCDs & OS X To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: nqPTFqu0tgY+iyKoqx+jdQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 378 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 Hi, Does anyone know how to play a VCD with a G4? I just tried a VCD yesterday and found out that Mac doesn't support VCD's at all. There seems to have two software packages: MacVCD X, which costs $20 and might be okay, and VLC, which is free but the display shaking. I am wondering if anyone knows how to make VLC works better. Any suggestions? Thanks, Vivien From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 11:36:07 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SIa5W15604 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SIa4h01768 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: synching data directories... cvs or script? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1249 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 Alright Mac peeps, I like to keep data on my Mac so that I can compute on an airplane, etc. ... The problem I'm having is that the data is here on the astron network and changes every once in a while. I'd rather not 'tar cvfz' the large amount of data and do a transfer every time (I not actually changing the data on the astron network... so this is assymetric). What I need is to be able to recursively search a directory tree and note if a file has been added or changed... So my question to macusers is this: Is anyone doing such a thing? Is what I want basically a dumbed-down version of cvs? Should I write a script to do this? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "Any engineer walking in the center of Amsterdam after 7pm officially violates one of these laws if he carries a screwdriver with him." --Paul Wouters ( http://www.politechbot.com/p-04673.html ) From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 12:00:11 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJ0BW16521; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SIxvb10048; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:59:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: synching data directories... cvs or script? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1778 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 You for text files, I use cvs to control all of my config dotfiles for all of the environments I move through. For big data, I use rsync. It does exactly what you describe and in a rational way. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > Alright Mac peeps, > > I like to keep data on my Mac so that I can compute on an airplane, > etc. ... > > The problem I'm having is that the data is here on the astron network > and changes every once in a while. I'd rather not 'tar cvfz' the > large amount of data and do a transfer every time (I not actually > changing the data on the astron network... so this is assymetric). > > What I need is to be able to recursively search a directory tree and > note if a file has been added or changed... > > So my question to macusers is this: Is anyone doing such a thing? Is > what I want basically a dumbed-down version of cvs? Should I write a > script to do this? > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "Any engineer walking in the center of Amsterdam after 7pm officially > violates one of these laws if he carries a screwdriver with him." > --Paul Wouters ( http://www.politechbot.com/p-04673.html ) > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 12:02:54 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJ2rW16555; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJ2ea10076; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:40 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: synching data directories... cvs or script? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2546 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 I've set up rsync for the windows boxes to be backed up in an incremental fashion and it was remarkably easy. I've been using it off and on since about 1997... More about rsync: http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/ rsync features rsync is a file transfer program for Unix systems. rsync uses the "rsync algorithm" which provides a very fast method for bringing remote files into sync. It does this by sending just the differences in the files across the link, without requiring that both sets of files are present at one of the ends of the link beforehand. Some features of rsync include * can update whole directory trees and filesystems * optionally preserves symbolic links, hard links, file ownership, permissions, devices and times * requires no special privilages to install * internal pipelining reduces latency for multiple files * can use rsh, ssh or direct sockets as the transport * supports anonymous rsync which is ideal for mirroring --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > Alright Mac peeps, > > I like to keep data on my Mac so that I can compute on an airplane, > etc. ... > > The problem I'm having is that the data is here on the astron network > and changes every once in a while. I'd rather not 'tar cvfz' the > large amount of data and do a transfer every time (I not actually > changing the data on the astron network... so this is assymetric). > > What I need is to be able to recursively search a directory tree and > note if a file has been added or changed... > > So my question to macusers is this: Is anyone doing such a thing? Is > what I want basically a dumbed-down version of cvs? Should I write a > script to do this? > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "Any engineer walking in the center of Amsterdam after 7pm officially > violates one of these laws if he carries a screwdriver with him." > --Paul Wouters ( http://www.politechbot.com/p-04673.html ) > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 12:55:53 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJtrW18593; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJtqp01925; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:55:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: James Colby Kraybill , Robert Crockett cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, Subject: Re: synching data directories... cvs or script? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 764 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all the suggestions... I HIGHLY recommend rsync!!! (and it's available via fink from a source build) For example, to do what I wanted to do (recursively copy changed or new files from "/mydir" on the astron network to "/mydir" on my Mac): rsync -avze ssh jhall@meso.berkeley.edu:/mydir /mydir (note that the v = verbose, the a = archive (for recursive tree expansion) z = compress the damn data and e = use something other than 'rsh' to connect (here I uses ssh)). It then has ssh prompt for your password and goes nuts on the files that have changed... > http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 14:31:32 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3SLVTW22365 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304282131.h3SLVTW22365@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: synching with CCC To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 1EVbv950Rt3JM5vV8PS5lQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 349 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 I've used another application called Carbon Copy Cloner: http://software.bombich.com/ccc.html The help menus are also informative on this site. CCC also makes a bootable copy of your hard drive on an external hard drive. So you can basically put your computer in your pocket and take it to any other mac and boot off the external hard drive. From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 29 17:14:18 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (as3-4-85.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.71]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3U0EGW07262; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:14:12 -0700 Subject: Re: VCDs & OS X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: huei-ru chen From: Paul Kalas In-Reply-To: <200304251725.h3PHPXQ25554@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 801 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 21 VLC was recently updated (a few weeks ago), in case the new version helps. I downloaded something called VCD Builder 1.1.1. I haven't used it, but it might have something that will help you. > From: huei-ru chen > Date: Fri Apr 25, 2003 10:25:32 AM US/Pacific > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: VCDs & OS X > Reply-To: huei-ru chen > > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to play a VCD with a G4? I just tried a VCD > yesterday and found out that Mac doesn't support VCD's at all. There > seems to > have two software packages: MacVCD X, which costs $20 and might be > okay, and > VLC, which is free but the display shaking. I am wondering if anyone > knows how > to make VLC works better. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Vivien From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Apr 30 10:29:21 2003 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3UHTKW27586 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304301729.h3UHTKW27586@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Re: VCDs & OS X To: macusers@astron.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: GUBPypDKfXN5i6SqcFyPhw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 751 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 I have tried the newer VLC version but somehow the display is like a shaking camera. Although OS X still doesn't support VCD playback, OS 9 does read VCD format properly. I just startup with OS 9, which comes along with OS X (remember?), and VCDs work fine. Vivien >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:14:12 -0700 >Subject: Re: VCDs & OS X >Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) >Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >To: huei-ru chen >From: Paul Kalas >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >VLC was recently updated (a few weeks ago), in case the >new version helps. > >I downloaded something called VCD Builder 1.1.1. >I haven't used it, but it might have something that will help you. > From jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 08:35:15 2003 Received: from graham.Berkeley.EDU (graham [128.32.92.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45FZDW14313 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "james r. graham 649" Received: (from jrg@localhost) by graham.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h45FZD809882 for macusers@astro; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305051535.h45FZD809882@graham.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: xmodmap X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 674 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 I'm trying to configure the keyboard for more convenient use with emacs. Has anyone successfully used xmodmap to swap the caps lock and control key on a G4 laptop running X-11? This works fine on several variants of sun keyboards I have used, e.g., xmodmap -e "remove Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "remove Control = Control_L" xmodmap -e "keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L" xmodmap -e "add Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "add Control = Control_L" On my mac I can deassign the caps lock key but I am unable to make it function as the control key. While we are on the topic of emacs what do you use for the meta key? Thanks, - James From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 10:23:04 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45HN3W19779; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45HN1J06553; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:23:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: xmodmap In-Reply-To: <200305051535.h45FZD809882@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1358 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 > I'm trying to configure the keyboard for more convenient use with > emacs. Has anyone successfully used xmodmap to swap the caps lock > and control key on a G4 laptop running X-11? I tried long and hard to swap the function and control keys but ended up giving up... It came down to actually installing a kernel extension... I was using a program called DoubleCommand and I think, in your case, it should be sufficient... I'll put it up on the web: http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/temp/DoubleCommand1.4.1.tar.gz > While we are on the topic of emacs what do you use for the meta key? The "Command" key (the one with the little apple on either side of the space bar) works as the meta key (so does ESC with limited functionality). Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html From mookie@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 12:28:43 2003 Received: from dharma.Berkeley.EDU (dharma [128.32.92.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45JSfW24894 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mookie@localhost) by dharma.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45JSe701424 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dharma.Berkeley.EDU: mookie owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Crockett X-X-Sender: mookie@dharma To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: xmodmap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2066 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 I have used a program called "uControl" to modify keymaps. (In my case, I wanted to remap the "enter" key, not "caps lock".) Hope it helps. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/mac/12106 Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Crockett Phone: 510.642.4223 Graduate Student Researcher FAX: 510.642.3411 Department of Astronomy email: mookie@astron.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mookie Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 --------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 5 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > > I'm trying to configure the keyboard for more convenient use with > > emacs. Has anyone successfully used xmodmap to swap the caps lock > > and control key on a G4 laptop running X-11? > > I tried long and hard to swap the function and control keys but ended > up giving up... It came down to actually installing a kernel > extension... I was using a program called DoubleCommand and I think, > in your case, it should be sufficient... I'll put it up on the web: > > http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/temp/DoubleCommand1.4.1.tar.gz > > > While we are on the topic of emacs what do you use for the meta key? > > The "Command" key (the one with the little apple on either side of the > space bar) works as the meta key (so does ESC with limited > functionality). > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability > to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your > face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html > > From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:13:37 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h45KDaW26954 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305052013.h45KDaW26954@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: making video from jpegs To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: F1TwEQM04rd+R1KvcBviwA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1022 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 26 So ... what is the best way to take a bunch of jpegs (~100) and turn them into a movie? (any video format that Powerpoint for Mac recognizes is fine for me). Inexpensive or free software is good, but something that works well is even better! If interested here's what I've tried already: -iMovie is a bad idea since the jpeg quality is seriously degraded. I'm playing with two pieces of downloaded shareware which have potential, but are not ideal: -Quick Movie: This would be great, the problem is that it takes the carefully numbered sequence of images (000.jpg, 001.jpg, etc.) and reverses them. I suppose I could number them backwards but this seems ridiculous. -Still Life: This works, and it's what I'll (buy and) use if noone has any better suggestions. It's kind of unwieldy, hard to make changes (e.g. to frame rate) and impossible to preview. It's more intended for making "Ken Burns" style documentaries where you pan and move around a photo still. Thanks for your time and help! Andrew From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:26:59 2003 Received: from cusp.Berkeley.EDU (cusp [128.32.92.53]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KQwW27682 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by cusp.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KQwQ08135 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cusp.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@cusp To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: pasting into x11? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 237 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 Hi everyone, I'm a brand new Mac owner...I just got my wonderful little Powerbook last week! I downloaded the newest release of X11 and I can't seem to paste anything into it. Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Thanks, Karin From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:51:33 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KpWW29430 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:52:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Region Free DVD player From: Franck Marchis To: macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <89DC4AD5-7F3B-11D7-B794-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 695 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 Hello, For those who buy some DVDs outside of the US and want to play them with their computer, there is a patch to make your DVD player Zone free on http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/download2.html * it is not illegal as soon you do not sell your computer with the DVD player region free. * you will lose the warranty * they may damage your drive if you do not read the instructions. Good luck F. --- Franck Marchis ------------------------- Phone: +1 510 642 3958 -- Postdoct/University of California Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA --http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:56:46 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KujW29779; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KuiD07135; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:56:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:56:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Andrew Youdin cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: making video from jpegs In-Reply-To: <200305052013.h45KDaW26954@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1927 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 29 I would use IDL. Here's a bit o' code that I used to make mpgs from plot windows (r3b = "restricted 3 body" problem)... it helps if the images are created in IDL but I think you could use it... http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/software/r3b.tar.gz > So ... what is the best way to take a bunch of jpegs (~100) and turn > them into a movie? (any video format that Powerpoint for Mac > recognizes is fine for me). Inexpensive or free software is good, > but something that works well is even better! > > If interested here's what I've tried already: > > -iMovie is a bad idea since the jpeg quality is seriously degraded. > > I'm playing with two pieces of downloaded shareware which have potential, but > are not ideal: > > -Quick Movie: This would be great, the problem is that it takes the > carefully numbered sequence of images (000.jpg, 001.jpg, etc.) and > reverses them. I suppose I could number them backwards but this > seems ridiculous. > > -Still Life: This works, and it's what I'll (buy and) use if > noone has any better suggestions. It's kind of unwieldy, hard to make > changes (e.g. to frame rate) and impossible to preview. It's more > intended for making "Ken Burns" style documentaries where you pan and > move around a photo still. > > Thanks for your time and help! > > Andrew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 16:58:59 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h45NwwW07749 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305052358.h45NwwW07749@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: QuickMovie 1.5 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: K7ACHXzSYxHldgNxvG5BRw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 674 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 30 I think I found an answer to my movie-making (from stills) dilemna: I discovered that the new version (1.5) of QuickMovie can properly sort imported photos. If you want to try this program, which I recommend, go to: http://www.chaoticsoftware.com/products.html The pros are that's it's simple, small, easy to use, supports many codecs, and the resolution seems fine. The con is that you can't do fancy things like have a variable frame rate (but you could do this creatively by adding copies of stills if you want it to go slower). P.S. If you want to see the movie(s), I'll be giving a brief talk (in prep for a 10 min AAS talk) at Fridays grad/postdoc seminar. From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 18:45:03 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h461j2W11579 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 18:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h461j0i07335 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: (no)fun with X11... cutting and pasting... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1235 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 31 Alright guys and gals... now for the real nitty gritty... I'm running the previously free version of XDarwin (that now costs money) and OroborOSX. I want to install Apple's X11. Why? Because I have to restart emacs every damn time I want to paste something from Quartz/Aqua (the Mac windows) into emacs running in X. I've tried numerous things and nothing seems to work... So, I've heard that people have no problem cutting and pasting back and forth between Quartz/Aqua and emacs running under Apple's X. Does anyone who has uninstalled X and then installed another X have any tips as to how I should proceed? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 11:58:01 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CIu0W11144 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:56:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <61A03A1B-84AB-11D7-B7A0-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 966 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 32 Hi, I've been using Mac Mail, and find that I am corrupting my /var/mail/kalas file on astron if I am concurrently running the Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron. Specifically, I check my mail using "Get Mail" in the OSX mail application, I am also running my Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron, then when I return to "Mailer" in Solaris I get the message that my mailbox has been changed and I have to close and restart "Mailer". Upon restarting the Solaris Mailer, my /var/mail/kalas has been corrupted, usually losing half my mail. Thanks, Paul p.s. Here is how I have my Mac Mail set up now: Mail-->Preferences-->Accounts-->Add -->Account Information: Account type: POP Description: Astro at Berkeley E-mail: kalas@astron.berkeley.edu Full Name: Paul Kalas Incoming Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu User Name: kalas Password: dot.dot.dot Outgoing Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu -->Advanced: Remove copy (uncheck) Authentication: Password From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:20:06 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJK5W12393; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJK6e01361; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:20:06 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Paul Kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: <61A03A1B-84AB-11D7-B7A0-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1634 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 33 This is just something that you should not do. Having multiple mailers accessing the var/mail/kalas file is doomed to cause problems. I'd suggest not doing it at all, if possible. The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not supported on astron right now. You will have to talk to Kelley about using POP3. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, Paul Kalas wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using Mac Mail, and find that I am corrupting > my /var/mail/kalas file on astron if I am concurrently running the > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron. > > Specifically, I check my mail using "Get Mail" in the OSX mail > application, I am also running my > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron, then when I return > to "Mailer" in Solaris I get the message that my mailbox has > been changed and I have to close and restart "Mailer". Upon > restarting the Solaris Mailer, my /var/mail/kalas has > been corrupted, usually losing half my mail. > > Thanks, > > Paul > > p.s. > > Here is how I have my Mac Mail set up now: > > Mail-->Preferences-->Accounts-->Add > > -->Account Information: > > Account type: POP > Description: Astro at Berkeley > E-mail: kalas@astron.berkeley.edu > Full Name: Paul Kalas > > Incoming Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > User Name: kalas > Password: dot.dot.dot > > Outgoing Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > > -->Advanced: Remove copy (uncheck) > Authentication: Password > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:25:00 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJP0W12525; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJP1H01371; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:25:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: James Colby Kraybill cc: Paul Kalas , Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2344 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 Ahem, I just noticed the pop settings.. Hi. Same deal. You should not be attempting to access /var/mail/anything while you're accessing it with something else, even if it's pop. If you can make the CDE mailer use pop too, then there won't be a problem. Also, I hope that's not your real pop e-mail password... - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > > This is just something that you should not do. > > Having multiple mailers accessing the var/mail/kalas > file is doomed to cause problems. I'd suggest not > doing it at all, if possible. > > The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not > supported on astron right now. > > You will have to talk to Kelley about using POP3. > > - Colby > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > On Mon, 12 May 2003, Paul Kalas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've been using Mac Mail, and find that I am corrupting > > my /var/mail/kalas file on astron if I am concurrently running the > > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron. > > > > Specifically, I check my mail using "Get Mail" in the OSX mail > > application, I am also running my > > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron, then when I return > > to "Mailer" in Solaris I get the message that my mailbox has > > been changed and I have to close and restart "Mailer". Upon > > restarting the Solaris Mailer, my /var/mail/kalas has > > been corrupted, usually losing half my mail. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > > p.s. > > > > Here is how I have my Mac Mail set up now: > > > > Mail-->Preferences-->Accounts-->Add > > > > -->Account Information: > > > > Account type: POP > > Description: Astro at Berkeley > > E-mail: kalas@astron.berkeley.edu > > Full Name: Paul Kalas > > > > Incoming Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > > User Name: kalas > > Password: dot.dot.dot > > > > Outgoing Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > > > > -->Advanced: Remove copy (uncheck) > > Authentication: Password > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:50:06 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJo5W13494; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJo4P11962; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:50:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Paul Kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: <61A03A1B-84AB-11D7-B7A0-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 324 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 35 As a general rule, two mail programs should not be editing/ reading/ whatever the same mail file. I think you might be better off concocting a way to use one mail reader at a time... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:56:19 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJuIW13749; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJuKp01693; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:56:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: Paul Kalas , Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1674 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 It is okay with IMAP (the unsupported protocol here...). I do it extensively between home and Berkeley with my personal e-mail and there has never been a screw up of this sort (losing e-mails etc..). I've been using it that way since 1994 and over the last year and a half I've gone from, "Uh, Why aren't we using IMAP?" to "WE NEED TO START USING IMAP". POP doesn't handle this sort of thing very well because it was never designed to hold onto your mail spool. It was designed as a protocol to distribute your mail spool to your desktop computer and leave it there. IMAP was designed as a general message passing protocol and it handles multiple access gracefully. It also supports a good IMAP+SSL model (which is supported by every e-mail client I've come across) that allows one to keep your password and e-mail from being readable as it travels through the internet/LAN. However, there are other options that need to be discussed in the general computer committee meeting that was supposed to occur two months ago, but has yet to be rescheduled. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > As a general rule, two mail programs should not be editing/ reading/ > whatever the same mail file. I think you might be better off > concocting a way to use one mail reader at a time... > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 15:40:53 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4CMeqW21079 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305122240.h4CMeqW21079@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Qk/bGaf0y3clT72L/6zG4w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 766 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37 Thanks for the replies. I have two remaining questions: >The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not >supported on astron right now. > >If you can make the CDE mailer use pop too, then there won't be >a problem. Colby, is CDE Mailer using IMAP or POP or neither? The CDE Mail Options-->Basic has a box available for "IMAP Inbox Server", which is not filled in. I don't see "POP" anywhere as an option. > >It is okay with IMAP (the unsupported protocol here...). >I do it extensively between home and Berkeley with my personal >e-mail and there has never been a screw up of this sort (losing e-mails Does this mean that I can change my Mac settings from POP to IMAP when I check my mail from Mac Mailer? Thanks again. Paul From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 15:46:44 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CMkhW21569; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CMkiw02423; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: paul kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: <200305122240.h4CMeqW21079@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1269 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 Re: CDE. Your CDE mailer is using neither. It is directly accessing /var/mail/kalas as a file. Re: IMAP. No, you cannot use IMAP in this department at this time. It is not supported. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, paul kalas wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I have two remaining questions: > > >The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not > >supported on astron right now. > > > >If you can make the CDE mailer use pop too, then there won't be > >a problem. > > Colby, is CDE Mailer using IMAP or POP or neither? The CDE > Mail Options-->Basic has a box available for "IMAP Inbox Server", > which is not filled in. I don't see "POP" anywhere as an option. > > > > >It is okay with IMAP (the unsupported protocol here...). > >I do it extensively between home and Berkeley with my personal > >e-mail and there has never been a screw up of this sort (losing e-mails > > Does this mean that I can change my Mac settings from POP to > IMAP when I check my mail from Mac Mailer? > > > > Thanks again. > > Paul > > > > > > > From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 16:18:17 2003 Received: from spryte.Berkeley.EDU (spryte [128.32.92.97]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CNIDW22975 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by spryte.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CNIE507615 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: spryte.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@spryte To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: color in idl on the mac Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 730 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39 Hello gurus, I am running idl on meso, and ssh -x ing it onto my g4 laptop @ home through the mac X11. This usually works fine, but I am having trouble running xloadct, or any program to edit the colors that tvscl displays. I can't seem to change the colors or the gamma or any of the other parameters that xloadct usually allows you to toggle in a displayed image. I assume it has something to do with color tables and the like, but I have no idea how... thoughts? -Josh * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue May 13 08:43:04 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4DFh3W10978; Tue, 13 May 2003 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 08:44:24 -0700 Subject: Re: color in idl on the mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Franck Marchis To: Josh Goldston , macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1274 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 40 IDL on Mac OSX works on 24 bits try IDL> device,decomposed=0 loadct,3 and then open a window or xloadct it works on my computer... cheers F. On Monday, May 12, 2003, at 04:18 PM, Josh Goldston wrote: > Hello gurus, > > I am running idl on meso, and ssh -x ing it onto my g4 laptop @ home > through the mac X11. This usually works fine, but I am having trouble > running xloadct, or any program to edit the colors that tvscl > displays. I > can't seem to change the colors or the gamma or any of the other > parameters that xloadct usually allows you to toggle in a displayed > image. > I assume it has something to do with color tables and the like, but I > have > no idea how... > > thoughts? > -Josh > > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * > * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * > Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 > Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 > ** * * * ** * * * ** > > > > > > --- Franck Marchis ------------------------- Phone: +1 510 642 3958 -- Postdoct/University of California Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA --http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue May 13 15:47:03 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4DMl2W00223; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305132247.h4DMl2W00223@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: Re: 3-button mouse To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, jrg@astron.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ZhBAuFGqCxQqaAytz/H8UQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 279 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 I have the same mouse that Paul and Franck have. It's small, chrome, made by Logitech and available at TSW.berkeley.edu. The middle button does scroll, but it pastes just fine, i.e. only once. I remember that they also sold larger, more ergonomic versions as well. andrew From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 11:39:13 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FIdCW06635; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FIdAd18038; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:39:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:39:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Dan Plonsey cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: supermongo for mac In-Reply-To: <200305151706.h4FH6UW03056@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 336 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 > We're having trouble building supermongo on Todd's mac, although it > built fine for two others. Would some of you be willing to try > building it on your mac? Is this a fink build or non-fink? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 12:08:50 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJ8nW08186; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJ8lh18070; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Todd Thompson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: supermongo for mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1472 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 [CC macusers for completeness] Todd wrote: > > Sounds like you need to add the X11 directory to your $PATH... in > > my .cshrc (which is read by 'sudo') I have: > > > > #this is for X11 I believe... > > source /sw/bin/init.csh > > setenv PATH /sw/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:{$PATH} > > right now i have no .cshrc. where should that go? home? > how do i ensure it's looked at by the appropriate agents at > startup? Put the above in a file titled '.cshrc' in your home directory. Modify the 'X11R6' path to point to the correct place for your system (you might want to include '/sw/bin/' and the 'source' command if you have fink installed). I also have 'source .cshrc' line as the first line of my '.tcshrc' file (where you keep aliases and the like for tshell). If you are asking "What the hell is a shell?" I suggest this: http://www.cs.bu.edu/help/unix/what_is_a_shell_.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "Established orbital infrastructure makes it politically and economically difficult to back away from an agressive human space program."--Donald F. Robertson; Space News (12 May 2003). From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 12:14:43 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJEhW08478; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJEhv11417; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:14:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: Todd Thompson , Subject: Re: tcshrc and cshrc (was: supermongo for mac) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2067 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 To simplfy, tcsh will first look for ~/.tcshrc and if it is not found, it will look for ~/.cshrc upon shell startup. So, you can put everything either in .cshrc or .tcshrc and then avoid having something like "source .cshrc" inside of your .tcshrc - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Thu, 15 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > [CC macusers for completeness] > > Todd wrote: > > > > Sounds like you need to add the X11 directory to your $PATH... in > > > my .cshrc (which is read by 'sudo') I have: > > > > > > #this is for X11 I believe... > > > source /sw/bin/init.csh > > > setenv PATH /sw/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:{$PATH} > > > > right now i have no .cshrc. where should that go? home? > > how do i ensure it's looked at by the appropriate agents at > > startup? > > Put the above in a file titled '.cshrc' in your home directory. Modify > the 'X11R6' path to point to the correct place for your system (you > might want to include '/sw/bin/' and the 'source' command if you have > fink installed). > > I also have 'source .cshrc' line as the first line of my '.tcshrc' > file (where you keep aliases and the like for tshell). If you are > asking "What the hell is a shell?" I suggest this: > > http://www.cs.bu.edu/help/unix/what_is_a_shell_.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "Established orbital infrastructure makes it politically and > economically difficult to back away from an agressive human space > program."--Donald F. Robertson; Space News (12 May 2003). > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 12:19:46 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJJkW08679; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJJia18079; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: James Colby Kraybill cc: Todd Thompson , Subject: Re: tcshrc and cshrc (was: supermongo for mac) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 937 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 > So, you can put everything either in .cshrc or .tcshrc and then > avoid having something like "source .cshrc" inside of your .tcshrc Thanks Colby... as always, you're right on the money... definitely uncessarily redundant: spider.local.>printenv PATH /sw/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin: /Users/ <...> ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "Established orbital infrastructure makes it politically and economically difficult to back away from an agressive human space program."--Donald F. Robertson; Space News (12 May 2003). From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 13:27:59 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKRvW11666 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKRut18158 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: fink users: more on .cshrc (rather important) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 605 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 For completeness: It turns out that the 'sudo' command needs .cshrc to have the "source /sw/bin/init.csh" line in it to use fink stuff as root. So, my .cshrc has *only* this line in it and then my .tcshrc has "source .cshrc" so that I have fink stuff available in .tcshrc. I guess you could get around this by having everything in .cshrc (as tcsh looks for .cshrc after not having found .tcshrc)... but then you'd have to modify anything that was tcsh-specific. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 13:40:16 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKeFW12256; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKeE410567; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:40:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: fink users: more on .cshrc (rather important) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 610 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 47 On Thu, 15 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > I guess you could get around this by having everything in .cshrc (as > tcsh looks for .cshrc after not having found .tcshrc)... but then > you'd have to modify anything that was tcsh-specific. There's really no problem putting everything (even tcsh-specific stuff) in .cshrc, because 'csh' doesn't really exist in OS X (unless you compiled it yourself for some bizarre reason). /bin/csh and /bin/tcsh are the same file, as 'diff'ing them shows (at least on my machine, OS X 10.2.6). So even if you run /bin/csh you get all the tcsh capabilities. -saurabh From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 14:43:14 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FLhCW15747 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 14:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:43:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: scp with Fugu From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3AB2D398-871E-11D7-AF6D-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 452 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 48 Basically, I want to download entire directories from astron to the mac, without using Fetch. With Fugu, scp is used instead of sftp. I am prompted for a password, but then scp fails. Below is the error log. Any ideas? Thanks, Paul scp launch path is /usr/bin/scp. Slave terminal device is /dev/ttyp4. Master fd is 14. kalas@astron.berkeley.edu's password: stty: : Invalid argument ~ scp task with pid 623 ended with status 1. Normal exit From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 16:29:40 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4FNTdW20703; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305152329.h4FNTdW20703@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: Re: scp with Fugu To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, kalas@astron.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tA9/z/AwhNusWocTzomzWA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 990 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 Paul (and anyone else interested)- scp in Fugu is working for me. I do occasionally get error messages, but I somehow make it though after a couple of attempts. You're welcome to come look at mine to check for differences. Also do you have your passwords in the keychain? -Andrew >Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:43:13 -0700 >Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) >Subject: scp with Fugu >From: Paul Kalas >To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Basically, I want to download entire directories from >astron to the mac, without using Fetch. With >Fugu, scp is used instead of sftp. I am prompted >for a password, but then scp fails. Below is the >error log. Any ideas? > >Thanks, > >Paul > > > >scp launch path is /usr/bin/scp. >Slave terminal device is /dev/ttyp4. >Master fd is 14. >kalas@astron.berkeley.edu's password: >stty: : Invalid argument >~ > >scp task with pid 623 ended with status 1. > > >Normal exit From mookie@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri May 16 13:02:20 2003 Received: from dharma.Berkeley.EDU (dharma [128.32.92.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4GK2IW19200 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mookie@localhost) by dharma.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4GK2Gm06081 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dharma.Berkeley.EDU: mookie owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Crockett X-X-Sender: mookie@dharma To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: NFS and OS X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 976 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 50 Hi all, In case you're interested, I just finished successfully mounting drives on an OpenBSD machine I have at home from my G4 laptop. This means that I have a transparent interface to files on my UNIX fileserver! If you're interested in the details, email me. I will say, however, that it wouldn't have been possible without a program I found for doing NFS mounts called 'NFS Manager'. It's shareware, and has very good documentation. Look for it at: www.bresink.com/osx/NFSManager.html (Perhaps we're one step closer to Macs on the astronomy network?!?) Cheers! Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Crockett Phone: 510.642.4223 Graduate Student Researcher FAX: 510.642.3411 Department of Astronomy email: mookie@astron.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mookie Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue May 20 12:20:42 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4KJKan06162; Tue, 20 May 2003 12:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:20:37 -0700 Subject: recording factoid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: macusers To: Andrew Youdin From: Paul Kalas In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <22E88CB5-8AF8-11D7-9739-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 824 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 51 If you have a sound input port, then you can record, on the hard disk, whatever sound comes out of your computer by connecting the sound output to the sound input. You might need to spend 10 minutes learning how some recording software works (e.g. Sound Studio 1.2), and getting the volume right. Here are two applications: 1) Record internet radio stations or other streaming audio. 2) Make your own "Books on CD". I haven't done this yet, but the principle is to convert a document into plain text, and then have the Mac read it out loud. Except that if you set up the computer as described above, it will write the sound to the hard disk, which you can then burn on CD, and listen to later. All of Shakespeare's works are available in plain text, except that having the computer read it might warp your mind. From jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 15:19:54 2003 Received: from graham.Berkeley.EDU (graham [128.32.92.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMJpn04698; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "james r. graham 649" Received: (from jrg@localhost) by graham.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h4LMJpS29509; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: IDL Cc: jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1237 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 52 I just installed IDL and have a couple of questions: 1) Running ATV crashes the entire x11 system (I am using X11 beta 3 - XFree86 4.2.1). This kill all my xterms, emacs, etc. etc. I only have to type atv and try and click on the ATV wind for this to happen. 2) IDL crashes frequently with the following error: dyld: /usr/local/rsi/idl_5.6/bin/bin.darwin.ppc/idl dead lock (dyld operation attempted in a thread already doing a dyld operation) Trace/BPT trap Has any one else seen this? Any suggestions. 2) When I use plot or tvscl the window does not update until I click on the IDL graphics window (it does when the window is first created but subsequent plots require clicking). This really slows things down. Is there a way to make IDL automatically update the graphics without having to click? Non IDL topics, but these irk me, so if any one has any suggestions... 3) Is there a way to change the window focus in X11/XFree86 without having to click on the window first. Most X11 desktop managers allow you to select the window focus simply by placing the mouse pointer over the window without clicking (or for that matter without raising it---BTW does the window with focus have to be on top? - Thanks, James From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 15:26:34 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMQXn05064; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMQWg11251; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: IDL In-Reply-To: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 748 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 53 I haven't tried atv, but I don't get the dyld errors nor do subsequent plot commands require clicking. There's got to be some (probably small!) difference in our IDL and/or X configurations. On Wed, 21 May 2003, james r. graham 649 wrote: > > 3) Is there a way to change the window focus in X11/XFree86 without > having to click on the window first. Most X11 desktop managers allow you to > select the window focus simply by placing the mouse pointer over the > window without clicking (or for that matter without raising it---BTW > does the window with focus have to be on top? > I can help with this though! % defaults write com.apple.x11 wm_ffm true will do the trick. This nugget is buried in the "man quartz-wm" documentation. -saurabh From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 15:30:50 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMUnn05361; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMUlc23981; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, Subject: Re: IDL In-Reply-To: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1059 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 54 > 2) IDL crashes frequently with the following error: > > dyld: /usr/local/rsi/idl_5.6/bin/bin.darwin.ppc/idl dead lock (dyld > operation attempted in a thread already doing a dyld operation) > Trace/BPT trap This guy seems to have had this problem as well: http://www.shorl.com/divuruvostevi [comp.lang.idl-pvwave] I'll check out if I can reproduce the atv crash when my model writes to output... have you tried renaming your "start.idl" file? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "SCO is alleging that IBM misappropriated from SCO technologies which do not appear in SCO's own product." Eric Raymond and Rob Landley http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html#id2788930 From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 16:01:30 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LN1Sn06781; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LN1QH24203; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: IDL In-Reply-To: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 978 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 55 > 1) Running ATV crashes the entire x11 system (I am using X11 beta 3 > - XFree86 4.2.1). This kill all my xterms, emacs, etc. etc. I only > have to type atv and try and click on the ATV wind for this to > happen. I got mixed results. I compiled ATV (what a cool program!) and it crashed IDL on the first execution. I restarted IDL, tried again, and it works perfectly. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "SCO is alleging that IBM misappropriated from SCO technologies which do not appear in SCO's own product." Eric Raymond and Rob Landley http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html#id2788930 From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri May 23 17:58:55 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4O0wkv27546; Fri, 23 May 2003 17:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:00:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: a very cool screen saver. From: Franck Marchis Message-Id: <10F1322D-8D83-11D7-AF3E-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 493 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 56 To discover our solar system it is nice and very interesting... it costs only 9.95$ but the demo version is complete. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/icons_screensavers/cosmosaver.html Cheers F. --- Franck Marchis ------------------------- Phone: +1 510 642 3958 -- Postdoct/University of California Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA --http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 28 02:45:08 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4S9j7h28447 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 02:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 02:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: color? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 191 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 57 Hi, When I run Apple's X11, I can't seem to get any color (for example, if I use ls --color=auto, it looks the same as normal). Does anyone have any advice on this subject? Thanks, Karin From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 28 14:06:24 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4SL6LQ14617 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:06:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: printing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 88 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 58 Hi, Does anyone know how to print to the department printers from your laptop? Karin From plonsey@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 28 15:06:19 2003 Received: from sunra (sunra [128.32.92.89]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4SM6I119295 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305282206.h4SM6I119295@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 15:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Plonsey Reply-To: Dan Plonsey Subject: Re: printing? To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: j88OshR7KWHsqtJCdxW9HQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 253 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 59 > Does anyone know how to print to the department printers from your laptop? > This is an opportunity for me to tell (or remind) the list that I'm compiling an FAQ as we go. See: http://astron.berkeley.edu/computing/macfaq.html#printingtosun Dan From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 29 17:24:53 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4U0OqH08976 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: opening a downloaded file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 503 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 60 Hi everyone, Another question from me. I'm full of them this week. I was wondering if it was possible to set something up so that when I download a postscript file it will open automatically, like pdf files. I have ghostview, which I got with fink, and it works fine...and I don't particularly want to download the mac version of ghostview. to open ghostview, I need to be in the x11 though, and I can't figure out a way to make the postscript file open automatically. Any advice? thanks, Karin From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 29 18:15:36 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4U1FZ410194 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 18:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305300115.h4U1FZ410194@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: opening a downloaded file To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: mC23541NLxC5z0StmYYhhw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1317 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 I don't know the exact answer to the question, but when you have a file that was just downloaded to your Desktop, you would double-click the icon to open it. But for the cases where you want to force a specific application to open a .pdf or .ps or .whatever, you click the icon once, then hold down the option key, move your cursor to the File menu, where you will see the menu item "Always open with...". Here you have the ability to open this type of file with a specific application on you hard drive. But, for the postscript files, and the X11, I dunno. >X-UIDL: f42b1ab3539958acebac5f9dd883127d >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:24:52 -0700 (PDT) >From: Karin Sandstrom >X-X-Sender: karin@astron >To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >Subject: opening a downloaded file > >Hi everyone, > >Another question from me. I'm full of them this week. > >I was wondering if it was possible to set something up so that when I >download a postscript file it will open automatically, like pdf files. I >have ghostview, which I got with fink, and it works fine...and I don't >particularly want to download the mac version of ghostview. to open >ghostview, I need to be in the x11 though, and I can't figure out a way to >make the postscript file open automatically. > >Any advice? > >thanks, >Karin From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 29 19:20:27 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4U2KQ412156; Thu, 29 May 2003 19:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4U2KON00962; Thu, 29 May 2003 19:20:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:20:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: Karin Sandstrom cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: opening a downloaded file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1234 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 62 Unfortunately you can't use "open with" and just specify "ghostview" or "gv" or whatever. You need to use an OS X app. I bet there's some clever way to create an OS X app that just runs "gv" with the filename using AppleScript, but I don't know any AppleScript. [by the way, if you set your DISPLAY to ":0" in your .login or equivalent, you can run X programs directly from your Mac Terminal windows, which I find easier on the eyes than xterms. Just make sure X11 is running of course.] Absent that, there are two options I know about, neither of which is ideal. There's a program called "MacGhostView" (http://www.kiffe.com/macghostview.html) that does exactly what you need, if you're willing to pay $20 for the shareware. Another option is to get TeXShop which is a TeX GUI -- it has an automatic ps to pdf converter, so if you open a postscript file with it, you automatically get a pdf preview. This works great on some postscript files and horribly on others (i.e. the fonts are often unreadable, etc.) But it's free. -saurabh ps. in lookin up MacGhostView I ran across this page "MacOS X for Particle Theorists" hosted right here at Berkeley, with a lot of good links in one place: http://hitoshi.berkeley.edu/macosx/ From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri May 30 11:17:28 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4UIHR428495 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: color ls and etc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 777 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 Hi, I figured out how to get color ls, and since I find it so useful, I thought I should share it with you guys. This may be fairly obvious to some people (not me!) but color is not a standard part of the ls function, you need to get a different version of ls which supports it. If you have fink the fileutils 4.1.3 package has this ls and when you have installed it you can just alias ls to "/sw/bin/ls --color" I hope somebody finds this useful, I always love to see the directories in blue personally :-) As for my previous question about opening x11 applications like postscript outside of the command line, I've found that it is definitely going to require some kind of script writing that I don't know how to do. If I ever figure it out, I'll let you know. Karin From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 10 10:35:54 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5AHZr428451 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5AHZq221973 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:35:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:35:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [Macusers] creating a root account Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 669 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 Hey Mac Users, If you've ever wondered how to log into your Mac as Superuser you should read this quick tutorial on how to set up a root account: http://www.osxfaq.com/Tutorials/Root_User_Creation/index.ws For most administrative tasks typing "sudo" before the command should suffice. For example: sudo chmod u+w /etc/ssh_config But if you ever screw up and do something like change the perissions of your /etc/sudoers file (which I did last night, thus disabling sudo. Doh!) you'll need to log in as root to fix things. _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 10 12:08:52 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5AJ8q402949 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306101908.h5AJ8q402949@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:08:52 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: creating a root account: sudo su To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: m1qzBPJ30xB1okZBk0fBWA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 185 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 I would also suggest using the command "sudo su" Creating a root user as shown in the tutorial takes some time and effort, but "sudo su" typed in your x11 window will make you root. From kelley@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 10 15:13:38 2003 Received: from beast (beast [128.32.92.126]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5AMDb413462 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306102213.h5AMDb413462@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelley McDonald Reply-To: Kelley McDonald Subject: allowing "Remote Login" under Mac OS X To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: r3U4WEh/Pip3m59AqzDLyA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 629 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 I would like to advise everyone that uses Mac OS X to double check that their machine is not allowing "Remote Logins", this is done by making sure that the checkbox for "Remote Login" is not checked under the control panel "Sharing" icon. It is unwise to let others login or attempt to login remotely to your laptop. Please check these settings and make sure you have it configured safely. Thanks, Kelley ------------------------------------------------------ Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 11 09:21:56 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5BGLt414736; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5BGLrH15596; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:21:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Louis-Benoit Desroches cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: replacing "control-M" in emacs... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1166 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 I just figured this out... figured I should post it. (this was inspired by the fact that pasting from Mozilla often leaves "^M" where each line should be carriage returned) Say you have a file that has a bunch of "^M" characters (like a MS-DOS file)... how do you replace the "^M" characters with a carriage return in emacs? Here's how: 1) go to the top of said file ("M-<") 2) start a query-replace. On my emacs this is "M-%" but you can also do "M-x query-replace" if that doesn't work for you. 3) tell it to look for "^M" by typing "C-q C-M" and hit RETURN. (Note: the "C-q" is to tell emacs that you want the next thing typed to be a control character instead of "^M" (a "carat" and an "M")) 4) you want to replace it with a carriage return which is "^J"... to enter this type "C-q C-J". (Note: the minibuffer will probably actually do a carriage return... this isn't a problem). Hit RETURN. 5) to replace all occurences in the query-replace, hit "!" and you should now be done. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 11 09:50:57 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5BGov415607 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306111650.h5BGov415607@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: OSX vs. Solaris To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: zwDw1+ymXBGRf9LVng8qww== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 679 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 Hi, What can the department Sun/Solaris system do, that the Mac/OSX can't do? It might be interesting, and useful, to keep a tally. Any ideas? In my work, I have only two things to list: ------------------------------------------------ Operating System scp2 (secure copy client) scp1 exists on the Mac, but not scp2. Applications like Fugu might be a workaround ------------------------------------------------ STScI/HST: APT 12.2.2 (Astronomer's Proposal Tool) Needed to prepare proposals (Phase I) and to schedule telescope orbits (Phase II). APT will work on the Mac for Phase I, but not on Phase II. ----------------------------------------------- From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 11 18:23:31 2003 Received: from phoebe.Berkeley.EDU (phoebe [128.32.92.14]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5C1NU408062 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by phoebe.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5C1NT113818 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:23:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: phoebe.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:23:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@phoebe To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: odd problems with "man" in OSX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1570 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 Hello Mac experts, I'm getting a bizarre error when I try to get a man page for anything on my Mac system. Here's a sample: ******************* louis% man ls /usr/bin/man: illegal option -- C man, version 1.1 usage: man [-adfhktw] [section] [-M path] [-P pager] [-S list] [-m machine] [-p string] name ... a : find all matching entries d : print gobs of debugging information f : same as whatis(1) h : print this help message k : same as apropos(1) t : use troff to format pages for printing w : print location of man page(s) that would be displayed M path : set search path for manual pages to `path' P pager : use program `pager' to display pages S list : colon separated section list m machine : search for alternate architecture man pages p string : string tells which preprocessors to run e - [n]eqn(1) p - pic(1) t - tbl(1) g - grap(1) r - refer(1) v - vgrind(1) ************** Now I have no idea what this illegal option --C is all about. The rest is just the system telling me how to properly use man, but it still gives me the same error anytime I try to use. I have no aliases setup, so it's not that. Any thoughts, oh wise ones? I'm thinking the man binary is messed up. ================================================================ Louis-Benoit Desroches (510) 642-2359 Graduate Student louis@astro.berkeley.edu Astronomy Department astron.berkeley.edu/~louis University of California, Berkeley 601 Campbell Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 12 08:49:35 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5CFnY427684 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306121549.h5CFnY427684@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:49:36 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: update ghostscript with Fink To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 5/5vDFVFvMEXH5aatiqLnA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 594 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 I wanted to update my Ghostscript6 with Ghostscript7. The following command did not work because Fink could not overwrite Ghostscript6: sudo fink install ghostscript Then, the following command did not work because ghostscript6 is something that gv requires, and gv was installed on my system: sudo fink remove ghostscript6 Therefore, to upgrade, here are the steps that worked quickly and without a hitch: sudo fink remove gv sudo fink remove ghostscript6 sudo install ghostscript sudo fink install gv Note that "sudo install ghostscript" defaults to the latest version, 7.04. From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 12 15:52:54 2003 Received: from kerns.Berkeley.EDU (kerns [128.32.92.123]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5CMqf414440 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by kerns.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5CMqgY09497 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:52:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kerns.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@kerns To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: odd problems with "man" in OSX In-Reply-To: <02E6FBD6-9D09-11D7-9C55-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 736 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 Update - So, it turns out that I have TWO man binaries on my computer. One was in the /sw/bin/ directory and the other in /usr/bin/. The /sw directory is a result of Fink, so I guess it must have downloaded a version of man and setup some sort of alias (which I cannot find, BTW) to it. Weird. Anyway, I've fixed the problem by rewriting an alias to /usr/bin in my startup file. Seems to fix the problem. Odd. Thanks for your tips. ================================================================ Louis-Benoit Desroches (510) 642-2359 Graduate Student louis@astro.berkeley.edu Astronomy Department astron.berkeley.edu/~louis University of California, Berkeley 601 Campbell Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 11:46:16 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DIkF408701 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:46:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Mail.app cannot read astron mail From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <503AD51B-9DCF-11D7-948F-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 583 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 Just an update on my previous problem. It seems that every 3 days or so I could get Mail.app to read the mail server. Today it's working better. I did two things that seemed to help: 1) deleted a large (3 MB) e-mail that I had on /var/mail/kalas on astron. 2) on astron, in the preferences of my mailtool, I increased the interval that mailtool checks mail from 30 seconds to 300 seconds. My guess is that if Solaris mailtool was checking for new mail every 30 seconds, even if I have quit the mailtool, then Mail.app had only a narrow window to access /var/mail/kalas. From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 11:55:46 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DItj409029 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DItii27822 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [macusers] rsync Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1441 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 73 My People, I just read the mac faq about using rsync. I'd like to modify Joe's example a bit: rsync -rzu --exclude="CVS" --rsh=ssh ~/idl/ johnjohn@cepheus:/a/johnjohn/idl/ I found it necessary to use the -u (update) switch for the following reason: Suppose you make a bunch of changes to some idl files on your laptop. The same (older) files are on your astron account. No problem, just rsync the entire idl directory. rsync will of course only transfer the files that are different between the two directories. Cool! But what if you made changes on some different idl files while on your astron account? Well, if you don't use -u, you'll overwrite these changes with the older version on your laptop unless you rsync one file at a time. Lame! The update switch ensures no newer files on the destination account get overwritten during the rsync transfer. -r recurses directories, I guess it's the same as -a I also exclude all of my CVS directories since I'm running CVS on both my mac and at school. Overwriting CVS/ directories would be bad, bad, bad. Does anyone else use --exclude? If so, do you know how to specify multiple exclude patterns? I'd like to exclude the *~ and #*# files emacs creates as backups. Also, if you are a CVS user I'd love to swap notes/ideas with you. word, _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 12:03:19 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3J409240; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3JB30817; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: [macusers] rsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1914 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 You can create a list of things to exclude by using --exclude-from=file The format of the file is: filename *.ini *~ etc.. I use CVS extensively. --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, John Johnson wrote: > My People, > > I just read the mac faq about using rsync. I'd like to modify Joe's > example a bit: > > rsync -rzu --exclude="CVS" --rsh=ssh ~/idl/ johnjohn@cepheus:/a/johnjohn/idl/ > > I found it necessary to use the -u (update) switch for the following > reason: Suppose you make a bunch of changes to some idl files on your > laptop. The same (older) files are on your astron account. No problem, > just rsync the entire idl directory. rsync will of course only transfer > the files that are different between the two directories. Cool! > > But what if you made changes on some different idl files while on your > astron account? Well, if you don't use -u, you'll overwrite these changes > with the older version on your laptop unless you rsync one file at a time. > Lame! The update switch ensures no newer files on the destination > account get overwritten during the rsync transfer. > > -r recurses directories, I guess it's the same as -a > > I also exclude all of my CVS directories since I'm running CVS on both my > mac and at school. Overwriting CVS/ directories would be bad, bad, bad. > > Does anyone else use --exclude? If so, do you know how to specify multiple > exclude patterns? I'd like to exclude the *~ and #*# files emacs creates > as backups. > > Also, if you are a CVS user I'd love to swap notes/ideas with you. > > word, > _____________________________________________________________________ > JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn > > > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 12:03:19 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3I409237; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3Gm16849; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: [macusers] rsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 955 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 > Does anyone else use --exclude? If so, do you know how to specify > multiple exclude patterns? I'd like to exclude the *~ and #*# files > emacs creates as backups. you should be able to add: --exclude '*~' --ex