From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Sep 18 11:13:08 2009 Date: 18 Sep 2009 11:13:08 -0700 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA Message-ID: <1253297588@chandra> X-IMAP: 1236375070 0000001107 Junk NonJunk Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 15 17:44:33 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3G0iWQ26209 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304160044.h3G0iWQ26209@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:44:33 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Fugu To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: e5UnQsz6AkeRszqfuSRwDQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 252 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1 Just as I was pondering the question of how to get scp working on my mac, Fugu 1.0 was released. Go to the "Get Mac OSX Software" and search for it. Does SFTP, SCP and SSH within a nice interface. No more command line ftp for me. I love Fugu. From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 15 23:59:21 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3G6xKQ04551 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2003 23:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304160659.h3G6xKQ04551@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 23:59:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: doublesided printing To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ebkzGoy5ixTqn9UgkAaF/Q== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 460 Status: RO X-Status: A X-Keywords: X-UID: 2 This is something that I just discovered and maybe others want to know. If you want to print double sided (in OS X) on one of the network printers: In the print window there's a drop down menu (below Printer and Presets) that reads "Copies and Pages" by default. Click it, select the duplex option and check the "Print on Both Sides" box. If anyone knows how to set this up as the default option, please let me know. Let hear it for the trees- Andrew From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:30:05 2003 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHU4Q25497 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHU4R15913 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:30:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@meso To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Printing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 680 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3 Hi guys, Has anyone figured out how to print from a locally networked G4 laptop to any of the local printers? Of course I can just ssh in and lp at the command line (in X or just terminal), but if I wanted to drive my printing from a laptop file and program (such as Adobe Illustrator), how would I do it? I am particularly interested in the color printer on the 5th floor, which shows up, sorta, on rendevouz. Thanks -Josh * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From colby@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:48:12 2003 Received: from celestial.Berkeley.EDU (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHmCQ26360; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3HHmBm13382; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:11 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Josh Goldston cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, Subject: Re: Printing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1349 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4 Last I'd heard from Kelley, this is a nono, unless your username is the same, or someother thingie lets the print spoolers know who you are. I'd recently gotten some feedback from someone with a windows box, trying to print, who got a different story about printing from non-nis+ integrated systems. I think it would be good to have clarification of the policy. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Josh Goldston wrote: > Hi guys, > > Has anyone figured out how to print from a locally networked G4 laptop to > any of the local printers? Of course I can just ssh in and lp at the > command line (in X or just terminal), but if I wanted to drive my printing > from a laptop file and program (such as Adobe Illustrator), how would I do > it? I am particularly interested in the color printer on the 5th floor, > which shows up, sorta, on rendevouz. > > Thanks > -Josh > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * > * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * > Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 > Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 > ** * * * ** * * * ** > > > From kelley@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:51:50 2003 Received: from beast (beast [128.32.92.126]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HHpnQ26554; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304171751.h3HHpnQ26554@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:51:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelley McDonald Reply-To: Kelley McDonald Subject: Re: Printing To: goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU, colby@astron.berkeley.edu Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, central@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ex/ctVJF0rrGBnoYxd9FSQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 2200 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5 Not really a nono...you just have to do it correctly. Paul, Could you post to this group the correct OS X steps to configure it to print. And yes, you MUST have your user name on the Mac bbe exactly the same as your username on the Suns. Windows boxes are currently not allowed to print to the networked printers. Kelley >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:48:11 -0700 (PDT) >From: James Colby Kraybill >To: Josh Goldston >cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, >Subject: Re: Printing >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > >Last I'd heard from Kelley, this is a nono, unless your username >is the same, or someother thingie lets the print spoolers know >who you are. > >I'd recently gotten some feedback from someone with a windows box, >trying to print, who got a different story about printing from >non-nis+ integrated systems. I think it would be good to have >clarification of the policy. > >- Colby > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory >colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > >On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, Josh Goldston wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Has anyone figured out how to print from a locally networked G4 laptop to >> any of the local printers? Of course I can just ssh in and lp at the >> command line (in X or just terminal), but if I wanted to drive my printing >> from a laptop file and program (such as Adobe Illustrator), how would I do >> it? I am particularly interested in the color printer on the 5th floor, >> which shows up, sorta, on rendevouz. >> >> Thanks >> -Josh >> >> * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * >> * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * >> Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 >> Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 >> ** * * * ** * * * ** >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------ Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 10:58:24 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HHwNQ27078 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304171758.h3HHwNQ27078@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: printing To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: fvYNcszhuSfgQTFb0eQxZQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 653 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6 Yes, your user name's have to match, and you have to ask Kelley to authorize you to print from the laptop. The general instructions for the setup in Mac OS 10.2.3 are: 1) Open Hard Disk --> Applications --> Utilities --> "Print Center" 2) Select the "Add" icon, or menu "Printer" --> "Add Printer" 3) In the window that opens, select "IP Printing" from the top menu bar. 4) Put astron.berkeley.edu in the "Printer's Address" window or you could put in 128.32.92.108 5) Put p433, or p544, or color in the "Queue Name" window 6) Printer models: p433-->HP LaserJet 4050 series p544-->HP LaserJet 8150 series color->HP color LaserJet 4600 From plonsey@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 11:54:17 2003 Received: from sunra (sunra [128.32.92.89]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HIsGQ00231 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304171854.h3HIsGQ00231@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 11:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Plonsey Reply-To: Dan Plonsey Subject: mac faq To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tAhqqGyr+/RKGl1XOrnZ5g== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 258 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7 Hi Macusers, It seems to me that a Mac FAQ on the department web site would be useful - I'll begin with what I've saved from all of the macusers emails. If someone's already started something like this let me know before I duplicate your efforts! Dan From plonsey@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Apr 17 16:21:31 2003 Received: from sunra (sunra [128.32.92.89]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3HNLUQ10794 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304172321.h3HNLUQ10794@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 16:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Plonsey Reply-To: Dan Plonsey Subject: mac FAQ To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: hp52Or3i+CXkNbhEaz+YlQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 129 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8 Hi mac users, I've started a mac faq: http://astron.berkeley.edu/computing/macfaq.html Send me additions & corrections. Dan From dsm@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 09:57:23 2003 Received: from virgo.Berkeley.EDU (virgo [128.32.92.234]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MGvMQ08471 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dsm@localhost) by virgo.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MGvLg02109 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: virgo.Berkeley.EDU: dsm owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Madgwick X-X-Sender: dsm@virgo To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Memory usage on Macs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 783 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 9 Hi, Does anyone know if there is some kind of limit used by Apple to the amount of memory a program can use. I'm trying to compile a program on my G4 Powerbook (512MB of ram) which reads in an array with 1 million elements. I can compile this fine with gcc, but I always get a Segmentation fault when I try to run it. I've included a copy of this program at the end of this email. I'm sure the program is fine, as it runs perfectly on a Sun with a similar amount of RAM. Also I should easily have enough unused memory on my laptop to hold this array! Thanks, DSM -------------------------- PROGRAM ------------------------------- #include #include #include #define NGAL 1000000 int main() { float galcat[NGAL+1]; } From mwhite@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 11:06:05 2003 Received: from cmb (cmb [128.32.92.71]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3MI62Q11671; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304221806.h3MI62Q11671@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:06:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin White Reply-To: Martin White Subject: Re: Memory usage on Macs To: dsm@astron.berkeley.edu Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Ad3GAdSsgp/9KL7lqHa5GQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.4.8 SunOS 5.8 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 452 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 10 Darren, Looks to me like a stack/heap size limit problem. Try dynamically allocating the array instead of statically. So float *galcat galcat = malloc( (NGAL+1)*sizeof(float) ); if (galcat==NULL) {perror("malloc");exit(1);} .... free(galcat); Alternatively find the O/S parameters which define the stack and global memory/heap sizes for programs and increase them. I doubt the O/S was set up for high performance computing! M. From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 12:00:01 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3MJ01Q14389 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304221900.h3MJ01Q14389@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: battery discharging To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: N1ke6tJA5WJVsQvrD39FTQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 361 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11 Hi, A question for those of you who have Titanium powerbooks, and OS 10.2.3 or later: When you have the powerbook **continuously** connected to AC Power, and you view the percent battery charge, do you find that the battery charge drops about 1% per day? (Eventually it drops to 94% and the battery uses the AC power to recharge to 100%). Thanks, Paul From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 12:35:45 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3MJZiQ15713 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304221935.h3MJZiQ15713@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: Re: battery discharging To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: KO7o4pjwQ6D3NkwyfPAA2w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 313 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12 Paul et.al.- I think I have noticed this, though I've only had the power drop to 98% while continuously connected. I also thought that it was good for the battery life to periodically (say once a month or so) drain it completely. Does anyone know if this is necessary for the Powerbook batteries? -Andrew From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 22 12:50:41 2003 Received: from kerns.Berkeley.EDU (kerns [128.32.92.123]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MJocQ16235 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by kerns.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3MJocc22414 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:50:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kerns.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:50:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@kerns cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: battery discharging In-Reply-To: <200304221900.h3MJ01Q14389@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 991 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 13 Regarding the fluctuating power meter...I've noticed this too. I've looked into this and it turns out this behavior is normal and is supposed to occur. Apple mentions something about on their website - it's some kind of power saving feature. So no need to worry. ================================================================ Louis-Benoit Desroches (510) 642-2359 Graduate Student louis@astro.berkeley.edu Astronomy Department astron.berkeley.edu/~louis University of California, Berkeley 601 Campbell Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, paul kalas wrote: > Hi, > > A question for those of you who have Titanium > powerbooks, and OS 10.2.3 or later: > > When you have the powerbook **continuously** connected to AC Power, > and you view the percent battery charge, do you > find that the battery charge drops about 1% per > day? (Eventually it drops to 94% and the battery > uses the AC power to recharge to 100%). > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Apr 23 12:51:06 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3NJp6Q19664 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3NJp4j23648 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:51:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 12:51:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: clipboard... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 139 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 14 I just noticed something... the upgrade to OS X 10.2.5 vastly improves the cut and paste between X and Aqua... no more "Copy XtoX". Joe From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Apr 25 10:25:34 2003 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3PHPXQ25554 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304251725.h3PHPXQ25554@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: VCDs & OS X To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: nqPTFqu0tgY+iyKoqx+jdQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 378 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 15 Hi, Does anyone know how to play a VCD with a G4? I just tried a VCD yesterday and found out that Mac doesn't support VCD's at all. There seems to have two software packages: MacVCD X, which costs $20 and might be okay, and VLC, which is free but the display shaking. I am wondering if anyone knows how to make VLC works better. Any suggestions? Thanks, Vivien From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 11:36:07 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SIa5W15604 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SIa4h01768 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: synching data directories... cvs or script? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1249 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 16 Alright Mac peeps, I like to keep data on my Mac so that I can compute on an airplane, etc. ... The problem I'm having is that the data is here on the astron network and changes every once in a while. I'd rather not 'tar cvfz' the large amount of data and do a transfer every time (I not actually changing the data on the astron network... so this is assymetric). What I need is to be able to recursively search a directory tree and note if a file has been added or changed... So my question to macusers is this: Is anyone doing such a thing? Is what I want basically a dumbed-down version of cvs? Should I write a script to do this? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "Any engineer walking in the center of Amsterdam after 7pm officially violates one of these laws if he carries a screwdriver with him." --Paul Wouters ( http://www.politechbot.com/p-04673.html ) From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 12:00:11 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJ0BW16521; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SIxvb10048; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:59:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: synching data directories... cvs or script? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1778 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 You for text files, I use cvs to control all of my config dotfiles for all of the environments I move through. For big data, I use rsync. It does exactly what you describe and in a rational way. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > Alright Mac peeps, > > I like to keep data on my Mac so that I can compute on an airplane, > etc. ... > > The problem I'm having is that the data is here on the astron network > and changes every once in a while. I'd rather not 'tar cvfz' the > large amount of data and do a transfer every time (I not actually > changing the data on the astron network... so this is assymetric). > > What I need is to be able to recursively search a directory tree and > note if a file has been added or changed... > > So my question to macusers is this: Is anyone doing such a thing? Is > what I want basically a dumbed-down version of cvs? Should I write a > script to do this? > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "Any engineer walking in the center of Amsterdam after 7pm officially > violates one of these laws if he carries a screwdriver with him." > --Paul Wouters ( http://www.politechbot.com/p-04673.html ) > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 12:02:54 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJ2rW16555; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJ2ea10076; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:02:40 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: synching data directories... cvs or script? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2546 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 18 I've set up rsync for the windows boxes to be backed up in an incremental fashion and it was remarkably easy. I've been using it off and on since about 1997... More about rsync: http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/ rsync features rsync is a file transfer program for Unix systems. rsync uses the "rsync algorithm" which provides a very fast method for bringing remote files into sync. It does this by sending just the differences in the files across the link, without requiring that both sets of files are present at one of the ends of the link beforehand. Some features of rsync include * can update whole directory trees and filesystems * optionally preserves symbolic links, hard links, file ownership, permissions, devices and times * requires no special privilages to install * internal pipelining reduces latency for multiple files * can use rsh, ssh or direct sockets as the transport * supports anonymous rsync which is ideal for mirroring --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > Alright Mac peeps, > > I like to keep data on my Mac so that I can compute on an airplane, > etc. ... > > The problem I'm having is that the data is here on the astron network > and changes every once in a while. I'd rather not 'tar cvfz' the > large amount of data and do a transfer every time (I not actually > changing the data on the astron network... so this is assymetric). > > What I need is to be able to recursively search a directory tree and > note if a file has been added or changed... > > So my question to macusers is this: Is anyone doing such a thing? Is > what I want basically a dumbed-down version of cvs? Should I write a > script to do this? > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "Any engineer walking in the center of Amsterdam after 7pm officially > violates one of these laws if he carries a screwdriver with him." > --Paul Wouters ( http://www.politechbot.com/p-04673.html ) > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 12:55:53 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJtrW18593; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3SJtqp01925; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:55:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: James Colby Kraybill , Robert Crockett cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, Subject: Re: synching data directories... cvs or script? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 764 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 19 SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all the suggestions... I HIGHLY recommend rsync!!! (and it's available via fink from a source build) For example, to do what I wanted to do (recursively copy changed or new files from "/mydir" on the astron network to "/mydir" on my Mac): rsync -avze ssh jhall@meso.berkeley.edu:/mydir /mydir (note that the v = verbose, the a = archive (for recursive tree expansion) z = compress the damn data and e = use something other than 'rsh' to connect (here I uses ssh)). It then has ssh prompt for your password and goes nuts on the files that have changed... > http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Apr 28 14:31:32 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3SLVTW22365 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304282131.h3SLVTW22365@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: synching with CCC To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 1EVbv950Rt3JM5vV8PS5lQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 349 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 20 I've used another application called Carbon Copy Cloner: http://software.bombich.com/ccc.html The help menus are also informative on this site. CCC also makes a bootable copy of your hard drive on an external hard drive. So you can basically put your computer in your pocket and take it to any other mac and boot off the external hard drive. From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Apr 29 17:14:18 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (as3-4-85.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.71]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h3U0EGW07262; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:14:12 -0700 Subject: Re: VCDs & OS X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: huei-ru chen From: Paul Kalas In-Reply-To: <200304251725.h3PHPXQ25554@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 801 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 21 VLC was recently updated (a few weeks ago), in case the new version helps. I downloaded something called VCD Builder 1.1.1. I haven't used it, but it might have something that will help you. > From: huei-ru chen > Date: Fri Apr 25, 2003 10:25:32 AM US/Pacific > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: VCDs & OS X > Reply-To: huei-ru chen > > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to play a VCD with a G4? I just tried a VCD > yesterday and found out that Mac doesn't support VCD's at all. There > seems to > have two software packages: MacVCD X, which costs $20 and might be > okay, and > VLC, which is free but the display shaking. I am wondering if anyone > knows how > to make VLC works better. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Vivien From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Apr 30 10:29:21 2003 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h3UHTKW27586 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200304301729.h3UHTKW27586@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Re: VCDs & OS X To: macusers@astron.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: GUBPypDKfXN5i6SqcFyPhw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 751 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 22 I have tried the newer VLC version but somehow the display is like a shaking camera. Although OS X still doesn't support VCD playback, OS 9 does read VCD format properly. I just startup with OS 9, which comes along with OS X (remember?), and VCDs work fine. Vivien >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:14:12 -0700 >Subject: Re: VCDs & OS X >Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) >Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >To: huei-ru chen >From: Paul Kalas >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >VLC was recently updated (a few weeks ago), in case the >new version helps. > >I downloaded something called VCD Builder 1.1.1. >I haven't used it, but it might have something that will help you. > From jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 08:35:15 2003 Received: from graham.Berkeley.EDU (graham [128.32.92.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45FZDW14313 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "james r. graham 649" Received: (from jrg@localhost) by graham.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h45FZD809882 for macusers@astro; Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305051535.h45FZD809882@graham.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: xmodmap X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 674 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 23 I'm trying to configure the keyboard for more convenient use with emacs. Has anyone successfully used xmodmap to swap the caps lock and control key on a G4 laptop running X-11? This works fine on several variants of sun keyboards I have used, e.g., xmodmap -e "remove Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "remove Control = Control_L" xmodmap -e "keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L" xmodmap -e "add Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "add Control = Control_L" On my mac I can deassign the caps lock key but I am unable to make it function as the control key. While we are on the topic of emacs what do you use for the meta key? Thanks, - James From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 10:23:04 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45HN3W19779; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45HN1J06553; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:23:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 10:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: xmodmap In-Reply-To: <200305051535.h45FZD809882@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1358 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 24 > I'm trying to configure the keyboard for more convenient use with > emacs. Has anyone successfully used xmodmap to swap the caps lock > and control key on a G4 laptop running X-11? I tried long and hard to swap the function and control keys but ended up giving up... It came down to actually installing a kernel extension... I was using a program called DoubleCommand and I think, in your case, it should be sufficient... I'll put it up on the web: http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/temp/DoubleCommand1.4.1.tar.gz > While we are on the topic of emacs what do you use for the meta key? The "Command" key (the one with the little apple on either side of the space bar) works as the meta key (so does ESC with limited functionality). Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html From mookie@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 12:28:43 2003 Received: from dharma.Berkeley.EDU (dharma [128.32.92.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45JSfW24894 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mookie@localhost) by dharma.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45JSe701424 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dharma.Berkeley.EDU: mookie owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:28:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Crockett X-X-Sender: mookie@dharma To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: xmodmap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2066 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 25 I have used a program called "uControl" to modify keymaps. (In my case, I wanted to remap the "enter" key, not "caps lock".) Hope it helps. http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/mac/12106 Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Crockett Phone: 510.642.4223 Graduate Student Researcher FAX: 510.642.3411 Department of Astronomy email: mookie@astron.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mookie Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 --------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 5 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > > I'm trying to configure the keyboard for more convenient use with > > emacs. Has anyone successfully used xmodmap to swap the caps lock > > and control key on a G4 laptop running X-11? > > I tried long and hard to swap the function and control keys but ended > up giving up... It came down to actually installing a kernel > extension... I was using a program called DoubleCommand and I think, > in your case, it should be sufficient... I'll put it up on the web: > > http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/temp/DoubleCommand1.4.1.tar.gz > > > While we are on the topic of emacs what do you use for the meta key? > > The "Command" key (the one with the little apple on either side of the > space bar) works as the meta key (so does ESC with limited > functionality). > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability > to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your > face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html > > From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:13:37 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h45KDaW26954 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305052013.h45KDaW26954@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: making video from jpegs To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: F1TwEQM04rd+R1KvcBviwA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1022 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 26 So ... what is the best way to take a bunch of jpegs (~100) and turn them into a movie? (any video format that Powerpoint for Mac recognizes is fine for me). Inexpensive or free software is good, but something that works well is even better! If interested here's what I've tried already: -iMovie is a bad idea since the jpeg quality is seriously degraded. I'm playing with two pieces of downloaded shareware which have potential, but are not ideal: -Quick Movie: This would be great, the problem is that it takes the carefully numbered sequence of images (000.jpg, 001.jpg, etc.) and reverses them. I suppose I could number them backwards but this seems ridiculous. -Still Life: This works, and it's what I'll (buy and) use if noone has any better suggestions. It's kind of unwieldy, hard to make changes (e.g. to frame rate) and impossible to preview. It's more intended for making "Ken Burns" style documentaries where you pan and move around a photo still. Thanks for your time and help! Andrew From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:26:59 2003 Received: from cusp.Berkeley.EDU (cusp [128.32.92.53]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KQwW27682 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by cusp.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KQwQ08135 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cusp.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@cusp To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: pasting into x11? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 237 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 27 Hi everyone, I'm a brand new Mac owner...I just got my wonderful little Powerbook last week! I downloaded the newest release of X11 and I can't seem to paste anything into it. Does anyone know how to fix this problem? Thanks, Karin From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:51:33 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KpWW29430 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:52:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Region Free DVD player From: Franck Marchis To: macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <89DC4AD5-7F3B-11D7-B794-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 695 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 28 Hello, For those who buy some DVDs outside of the US and want to play them with their computer, there is a patch to make your DVD player Zone free on http://www.wormintheapple.gr/macdvd/download2.html * it is not illegal as soon you do not sell your computer with the DVD player region free. * you will lose the warranty * they may damage your drive if you do not read the instructions. Good luck F. --- Franck Marchis ------------------------- Phone: +1 510 642 3958 -- Postdoct/University of California Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA --http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 13:56:46 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KujW29779; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h45KuiD07135; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:56:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:56:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Andrew Youdin cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: making video from jpegs In-Reply-To: <200305052013.h45KDaW26954@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1927 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 29 I would use IDL. Here's a bit o' code that I used to make mpgs from plot windows (r3b = "restricted 3 body" problem)... it helps if the images are created in IDL but I think you could use it... http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/software/r3b.tar.gz > So ... what is the best way to take a bunch of jpegs (~100) and turn > them into a movie? (any video format that Powerpoint for Mac > recognizes is fine for me). Inexpensive or free software is good, > but something that works well is even better! > > If interested here's what I've tried already: > > -iMovie is a bad idea since the jpeg quality is seriously degraded. > > I'm playing with two pieces of downloaded shareware which have potential, but > are not ideal: > > -Quick Movie: This would be great, the problem is that it takes the > carefully numbered sequence of images (000.jpg, 001.jpg, etc.) and > reverses them. I suppose I could number them backwards but this > seems ridiculous. > > -Still Life: This works, and it's what I'll (buy and) use if > noone has any better suggestions. It's kind of unwieldy, hard to make > changes (e.g. to frame rate) and impossible to preview. It's more > intended for making "Ken Burns" style documentaries where you pan and > move around a photo still. > > Thanks for your time and help! > > Andrew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 16:58:59 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h45NwwW07749 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305052358.h45NwwW07749@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 16:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: QuickMovie 1.5 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: K7ACHXzSYxHldgNxvG5BRw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 674 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 30 I think I found an answer to my movie-making (from stills) dilemna: I discovered that the new version (1.5) of QuickMovie can properly sort imported photos. If you want to try this program, which I recommend, go to: http://www.chaoticsoftware.com/products.html The pros are that's it's simple, small, easy to use, supports many codecs, and the resolution seems fine. The con is that you can't do fancy things like have a variable frame rate (but you could do this creatively by adding copies of stills if you want it to go slower). P.S. If you want to see the movie(s), I'll be giving a brief talk (in prep for a 10 min AAS talk) at Fridays grad/postdoc seminar. From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 5 18:45:03 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h461j2W11579 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 18:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h461j0i07335 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 18:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: (no)fun with X11... cutting and pasting... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1235 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 31 Alright guys and gals... now for the real nitty gritty... I'm running the previously free version of XDarwin (that now costs money) and OroborOSX. I want to install Apple's X11. Why? Because I have to restart emacs every damn time I want to paste something from Quartz/Aqua (the Mac windows) into emacs running in X. I've tried numerous things and nothing seems to work... So, I've heard that people have no problem cutting and pasting back and forth between Quartz/Aqua and emacs running under Apple's X. Does anyone who has uninstalled X and then installed another X have any tips as to how I should proceed? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "The human population does not double every 18 months, but its ability to use computers to keep track of us does. You can't encrypt your face." -- Phil Zimmermann; http://news.com.com/2100-1009-998728.html From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 11:58:01 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CIu0W11144 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:56:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <61A03A1B-84AB-11D7-B7A0-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 966 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 32 Hi, I've been using Mac Mail, and find that I am corrupting my /var/mail/kalas file on astron if I am concurrently running the Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron. Specifically, I check my mail using "Get Mail" in the OSX mail application, I am also running my Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron, then when I return to "Mailer" in Solaris I get the message that my mailbox has been changed and I have to close and restart "Mailer". Upon restarting the Solaris Mailer, my /var/mail/kalas has been corrupted, usually losing half my mail. Thanks, Paul p.s. Here is how I have my Mac Mail set up now: Mail-->Preferences-->Accounts-->Add -->Account Information: Account type: POP Description: Astro at Berkeley E-mail: kalas@astron.berkeley.edu Full Name: Paul Kalas Incoming Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu User Name: kalas Password: dot.dot.dot Outgoing Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu -->Advanced: Remove copy (uncheck) Authentication: Password From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:20:06 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJK5W12393; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJK6e01361; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:20:06 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:20:06 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Paul Kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: <61A03A1B-84AB-11D7-B7A0-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1634 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 33 This is just something that you should not do. Having multiple mailers accessing the var/mail/kalas file is doomed to cause problems. I'd suggest not doing it at all, if possible. The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not supported on astron right now. You will have to talk to Kelley about using POP3. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, Paul Kalas wrote: > Hi, > > I've been using Mac Mail, and find that I am corrupting > my /var/mail/kalas file on astron if I am concurrently running the > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron. > > Specifically, I check my mail using "Get Mail" in the OSX mail > application, I am also running my > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron, then when I return > to "Mailer" in Solaris I get the message that my mailbox has > been changed and I have to close and restart "Mailer". Upon > restarting the Solaris Mailer, my /var/mail/kalas has > been corrupted, usually losing half my mail. > > Thanks, > > Paul > > p.s. > > Here is how I have my Mac Mail set up now: > > Mail-->Preferences-->Accounts-->Add > > -->Account Information: > > Account type: POP > Description: Astro at Berkeley > E-mail: kalas@astron.berkeley.edu > Full Name: Paul Kalas > > Incoming Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > User Name: kalas > Password: dot.dot.dot > > Outgoing Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > > -->Advanced: Remove copy (uncheck) > Authentication: Password > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:25:00 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJP0W12525; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJP1H01371; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:25:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: James Colby Kraybill cc: Paul Kalas , Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2344 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 34 Ahem, I just noticed the pop settings.. Hi. Same deal. You should not be attempting to access /var/mail/anything while you're accessing it with something else, even if it's pop. If you can make the CDE mailer use pop too, then there won't be a problem. Also, I hope that's not your real pop e-mail password... - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > > This is just something that you should not do. > > Having multiple mailers accessing the var/mail/kalas > file is doomed to cause problems. I'd suggest not > doing it at all, if possible. > > The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not > supported on astron right now. > > You will have to talk to Kelley about using POP3. > > - Colby > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > On Mon, 12 May 2003, Paul Kalas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've been using Mac Mail, and find that I am corrupting > > my /var/mail/kalas file on astron if I am concurrently running the > > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron. > > > > Specifically, I check my mail using "Get Mail" in the OSX mail > > application, I am also running my > > Solaris CDE "Mailer" on astron, then when I return > > to "Mailer" in Solaris I get the message that my mailbox has > > been changed and I have to close and restart "Mailer". Upon > > restarting the Solaris Mailer, my /var/mail/kalas has > > been corrupted, usually losing half my mail. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > > p.s. > > > > Here is how I have my Mac Mail set up now: > > > > Mail-->Preferences-->Accounts-->Add > > > > -->Account Information: > > > > Account type: POP > > Description: Astro at Berkeley > > E-mail: kalas@astron.berkeley.edu > > Full Name: Paul Kalas > > > > Incoming Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > > User Name: kalas > > Password: dot.dot.dot > > > > Outgoing Mail Server: astron.berkeley.edu > > > > -->Advanced: Remove copy (uncheck) > > Authentication: Password > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:50:06 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJo5W13494; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJo4P11962; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:50:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Paul Kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: <61A03A1B-84AB-11D7-B7A0-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 324 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 35 As a general rule, two mail programs should not be editing/ reading/ whatever the same mail file. I think you might be better off concocting a way to use one mail reader at a time... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 12:56:19 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJuIW13749; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CJuKp01693; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:56:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: Paul Kalas , Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1674 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 36 It is okay with IMAP (the unsupported protocol here...). I do it extensively between home and Berkeley with my personal e-mail and there has never been a screw up of this sort (losing e-mails etc..). I've been using it that way since 1994 and over the last year and a half I've gone from, "Uh, Why aren't we using IMAP?" to "WE NEED TO START USING IMAP". POP doesn't handle this sort of thing very well because it was never designed to hold onto your mail spool. It was designed as a protocol to distribute your mail spool to your desktop computer and leave it there. IMAP was designed as a general message passing protocol and it handles multiple access gracefully. It also supports a good IMAP+SSL model (which is supported by every e-mail client I've come across) that allows one to keep your password and e-mail from being readable as it travels through the internet/LAN. However, there are other options that need to be discussed in the general computer committee meeting that was supposed to occur two months ago, but has yet to be rescheduled. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > As a general rule, two mail programs should not be editing/ reading/ > whatever the same mail file. I think you might be better off > concocting a way to use one mail reader at a time... > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 15:40:53 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4CMeqW21079 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305122240.h4CMeqW21079@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:40:53 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Qk/bGaf0y3clT72L/6zG4w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 766 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37 Thanks for the replies. I have two remaining questions: >The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not >supported on astron right now. > >If you can make the CDE mailer use pop too, then there won't be >a problem. Colby, is CDE Mailer using IMAP or POP or neither? The CDE Mail Options-->Basic has a box available for "IMAP Inbox Server", which is not filled in. I don't see "POP" anywhere as an option. > >It is okay with IMAP (the unsupported protocol here...). >I do it extensively between home and Berkeley with my personal >e-mail and there has never been a screw up of this sort (losing e-mails Does this mean that I can change my Mac settings from POP to IMAP when I check my mail from Mac Mailer? Thanks again. Paul From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 15:46:44 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CMkhW21569; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CMkiw02423; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: paul kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mac Mail vs. CDE Mailer In-Reply-To: <200305122240.h4CMeqW21079@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1269 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 38 Re: CDE. Your CDE mailer is using neither. It is directly accessing /var/mail/kalas as a file. Re: IMAP. No, you cannot use IMAP in this department at this time. It is not supported. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 12 May 2003, paul kalas wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I have two remaining questions: > > >The real solution is to use POP3 or IMAP. Unfortunately, IMAP is not > >supported on astron right now. > > > >If you can make the CDE mailer use pop too, then there won't be > >a problem. > > Colby, is CDE Mailer using IMAP or POP or neither? The CDE > Mail Options-->Basic has a box available for "IMAP Inbox Server", > which is not filled in. I don't see "POP" anywhere as an option. > > > > >It is okay with IMAP (the unsupported protocol here...). > >I do it extensively between home and Berkeley with my personal > >e-mail and there has never been a screw up of this sort (losing e-mails > > Does this mean that I can change my Mac settings from POP to > IMAP when I check my mail from Mac Mailer? > > > > Thanks again. > > Paul > > > > > > > From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon May 12 16:18:17 2003 Received: from spryte.Berkeley.EDU (spryte [128.32.92.97]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CNIDW22975 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by spryte.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4CNIE507615 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: spryte.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@spryte To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: color in idl on the mac Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 730 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39 Hello gurus, I am running idl on meso, and ssh -x ing it onto my g4 laptop @ home through the mac X11. This usually works fine, but I am having trouble running xloadct, or any program to edit the colors that tvscl displays. I can't seem to change the colors or the gamma or any of the other parameters that xloadct usually allows you to toggle in a displayed image. I assume it has something to do with color tables and the like, but I have no idea how... thoughts? -Josh * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue May 13 08:43:04 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4DFh3W10978; Tue, 13 May 2003 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 08:44:24 -0700 Subject: Re: color in idl on the mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Franck Marchis To: Josh Goldston , macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1274 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 40 IDL on Mac OSX works on 24 bits try IDL> device,decomposed=0 loadct,3 and then open a window or xloadct it works on my computer... cheers F. On Monday, May 12, 2003, at 04:18 PM, Josh Goldston wrote: > Hello gurus, > > I am running idl on meso, and ssh -x ing it onto my g4 laptop @ home > through the mac X11. This usually works fine, but I am having trouble > running xloadct, or any program to edit the colors that tvscl > displays. I > can't seem to change the colors or the gamma or any of the other > parameters that xloadct usually allows you to toggle in a displayed > image. > I assume it has something to do with color tables and the like, but I > have > no idea how... > > thoughts? > -Josh > > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * > * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 501b Campbell Hall ** * > Cellular: 609 915 8972 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 > Office: 510 642 7768 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 > ** * * * ** * * * ** > > > > > > --- Franck Marchis ------------------------- Phone: +1 510 642 3958 -- Postdoct/University of California Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA --http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue May 13 15:47:03 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4DMl2W00223; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305132247.h4DMl2W00223@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 15:47:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: Re: 3-button mouse To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, jrg@astron.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ZhBAuFGqCxQqaAytz/H8UQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 279 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 41 I have the same mouse that Paul and Franck have. It's small, chrome, made by Logitech and available at TSW.berkeley.edu. The middle button does scroll, but it pastes just fine, i.e. only once. I remember that they also sold larger, more ergonomic versions as well. andrew From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 11:39:13 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FIdCW06635; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FIdAd18038; Thu, 15 May 2003 11:39:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:39:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Dan Plonsey cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: supermongo for mac In-Reply-To: <200305151706.h4FH6UW03056@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 336 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 42 > We're having trouble building supermongo on Todd's mac, although it > built fine for two others. Would some of you be willing to try > building it on your mac? Is this a fink build or non-fink? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 12:08:50 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJ8nW08186; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJ8lh18070; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Todd Thompson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: supermongo for mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1472 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 43 [CC macusers for completeness] Todd wrote: > > Sounds like you need to add the X11 directory to your $PATH... in > > my .cshrc (which is read by 'sudo') I have: > > > > #this is for X11 I believe... > > source /sw/bin/init.csh > > setenv PATH /sw/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:{$PATH} > > right now i have no .cshrc. where should that go? home? > how do i ensure it's looked at by the appropriate agents at > startup? Put the above in a file titled '.cshrc' in your home directory. Modify the 'X11R6' path to point to the correct place for your system (you might want to include '/sw/bin/' and the 'source' command if you have fink installed). I also have 'source .cshrc' line as the first line of my '.tcshrc' file (where you keep aliases and the like for tshell). If you are asking "What the hell is a shell?" I suggest this: http://www.cs.bu.edu/help/unix/what_is_a_shell_.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "Established orbital infrastructure makes it politically and economically difficult to back away from an agressive human space program."--Donald F. Robertson; Space News (12 May 2003). From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 12:14:43 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJEhW08478; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJEhv11417; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:14:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: Todd Thompson , Subject: Re: tcshrc and cshrc (was: supermongo for mac) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2067 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 44 To simplfy, tcsh will first look for ~/.tcshrc and if it is not found, it will look for ~/.cshrc upon shell startup. So, you can put everything either in .cshrc or .tcshrc and then avoid having something like "source .cshrc" inside of your .tcshrc - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Thu, 15 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > [CC macusers for completeness] > > Todd wrote: > > > > Sounds like you need to add the X11 directory to your $PATH... in > > > my .cshrc (which is read by 'sudo') I have: > > > > > > #this is for X11 I believe... > > > source /sw/bin/init.csh > > > setenv PATH /sw/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:{$PATH} > > > > right now i have no .cshrc. where should that go? home? > > how do i ensure it's looked at by the appropriate agents at > > startup? > > Put the above in a file titled '.cshrc' in your home directory. Modify > the 'X11R6' path to point to the correct place for your system (you > might want to include '/sw/bin/' and the 'source' command if you have > fink installed). > > I also have 'source .cshrc' line as the first line of my '.tcshrc' > file (where you keep aliases and the like for tshell). If you are > asking "What the hell is a shell?" I suggest this: > > http://www.cs.bu.edu/help/unix/what_is_a_shell_.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu > Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "Established orbital infrastructure makes it politically and > economically difficult to back away from an agressive human space > program."--Donald F. Robertson; Space News (12 May 2003). > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 12:19:46 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJJkW08679; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FJJia18079; Thu, 15 May 2003 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 12:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: James Colby Kraybill cc: Todd Thompson , Subject: Re: tcshrc and cshrc (was: supermongo for mac) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 937 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 45 > So, you can put everything either in .cshrc or .tcshrc and then > avoid having something like "source .cshrc" inside of your .tcshrc Thanks Colby... as always, you're right on the money... definitely uncessarily redundant: spider.local.>printenv PATH /sw/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin: /Users/ <...> ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "Established orbital infrastructure makes it politically and economically difficult to back away from an agressive human space program."--Donald F. Robertson; Space News (12 May 2003). From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 13:27:59 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKRvW11666 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKRut18158 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: fink users: more on .cshrc (rather important) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 605 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 46 For completeness: It turns out that the 'sudo' command needs .cshrc to have the "source /sw/bin/init.csh" line in it to use fink stuff as root. So, my .cshrc has *only* this line in it and then my .tcshrc has "source .cshrc" so that I have fink stuff available in .tcshrc. I guess you could get around this by having everything in .cshrc (as tcsh looks for .cshrc after not having found .tcshrc)... but then you'd have to modify anything that was tcsh-specific. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 13:40:16 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKeFW12256; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FKeE410567; Thu, 15 May 2003 13:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:40:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: fink users: more on .cshrc (rather important) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 610 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 47 On Thu, 15 May 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > I guess you could get around this by having everything in .cshrc (as > tcsh looks for .cshrc after not having found .tcshrc)... but then > you'd have to modify anything that was tcsh-specific. There's really no problem putting everything (even tcsh-specific stuff) in .cshrc, because 'csh' doesn't really exist in OS X (unless you compiled it yourself for some bizarre reason). /bin/csh and /bin/tcsh are the same file, as 'diff'ing them shows (at least on my machine, OS X 10.2.6). So even if you run /bin/csh you get all the tcsh capabilities. -saurabh From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 14:43:14 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4FLhCW15747 for ; Thu, 15 May 2003 14:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:43:13 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: scp with Fugu From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3AB2D398-871E-11D7-AF6D-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 452 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 48 Basically, I want to download entire directories from astron to the mac, without using Fetch. With Fugu, scp is used instead of sftp. I am prompted for a password, but then scp fails. Below is the error log. Any ideas? Thanks, Paul scp launch path is /usr/bin/scp. Slave terminal device is /dev/ttyp4. Master fd is 14. kalas@astron.berkeley.edu's password: stty: : Invalid argument ~ scp task with pid 623 ended with status 1. Normal exit From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 15 16:29:40 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4FNTdW20703; Thu, 15 May 2003 16:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305152329.h4FNTdW20703@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: Re: scp with Fugu To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, kalas@astron.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tA9/z/AwhNusWocTzomzWA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 990 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 49 Paul (and anyone else interested)- scp in Fugu is working for me. I do occasionally get error messages, but I somehow make it though after a couple of attempts. You're welcome to come look at mine to check for differences. Also do you have your passwords in the keychain? -Andrew >Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:43:13 -0700 >Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) >Subject: scp with Fugu >From: Paul Kalas >To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Basically, I want to download entire directories from >astron to the mac, without using Fetch. With >Fugu, scp is used instead of sftp. I am prompted >for a password, but then scp fails. Below is the >error log. Any ideas? > >Thanks, > >Paul > > > >scp launch path is /usr/bin/scp. >Slave terminal device is /dev/ttyp4. >Master fd is 14. >kalas@astron.berkeley.edu's password: >stty: : Invalid argument >~ > >scp task with pid 623 ended with status 1. > > >Normal exit From mookie@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri May 16 13:02:20 2003 Received: from dharma.Berkeley.EDU (dharma [128.32.92.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4GK2IW19200 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mookie@localhost) by dharma.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4GK2Gm06081 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 13:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dharma.Berkeley.EDU: mookie owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Crockett X-X-Sender: mookie@dharma To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: NFS and OS X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 976 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 50 Hi all, In case you're interested, I just finished successfully mounting drives on an OpenBSD machine I have at home from my G4 laptop. This means that I have a transparent interface to files on my UNIX fileserver! If you're interested in the details, email me. I will say, however, that it wouldn't have been possible without a program I found for doing NFS mounts called 'NFS Manager'. It's shareware, and has very good documentation. Look for it at: www.bresink.com/osx/NFSManager.html (Perhaps we're one step closer to Macs on the astronomy network?!?) Cheers! Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert K. Crockett Phone: 510.642.4223 Graduate Student Researcher FAX: 510.642.3411 Department of Astronomy email: mookie@astron.berkeley.edu UC Berkeley http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mookie Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 --------------------------------------------------------------------- From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue May 20 12:20:42 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4KJKan06162; Tue, 20 May 2003 12:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:20:37 -0700 Subject: recording factoid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: macusers To: Andrew Youdin From: Paul Kalas In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <22E88CB5-8AF8-11D7-9739-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 824 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 51 If you have a sound input port, then you can record, on the hard disk, whatever sound comes out of your computer by connecting the sound output to the sound input. You might need to spend 10 minutes learning how some recording software works (e.g. Sound Studio 1.2), and getting the volume right. Here are two applications: 1) Record internet radio stations or other streaming audio. 2) Make your own "Books on CD". I haven't done this yet, but the principle is to convert a document into plain text, and then have the Mac read it out loud. Except that if you set up the computer as described above, it will write the sound to the hard disk, which you can then burn on CD, and listen to later. All of Shakespeare's works are available in plain text, except that having the computer read it might warp your mind. From jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 15:19:54 2003 Received: from graham.Berkeley.EDU (graham [128.32.92.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMJpn04698; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "james r. graham 649" Received: (from jrg@localhost) by graham.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h4LMJpS29509; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: IDL Cc: jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1237 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 52 I just installed IDL and have a couple of questions: 1) Running ATV crashes the entire x11 system (I am using X11 beta 3 - XFree86 4.2.1). This kill all my xterms, emacs, etc. etc. I only have to type atv and try and click on the ATV wind for this to happen. 2) IDL crashes frequently with the following error: dyld: /usr/local/rsi/idl_5.6/bin/bin.darwin.ppc/idl dead lock (dyld operation attempted in a thread already doing a dyld operation) Trace/BPT trap Has any one else seen this? Any suggestions. 2) When I use plot or tvscl the window does not update until I click on the IDL graphics window (it does when the window is first created but subsequent plots require clicking). This really slows things down. Is there a way to make IDL automatically update the graphics without having to click? Non IDL topics, but these irk me, so if any one has any suggestions... 3) Is there a way to change the window focus in X11/XFree86 without having to click on the window first. Most X11 desktop managers allow you to select the window focus simply by placing the mouse pointer over the window without clicking (or for that matter without raising it---BTW does the window with focus have to be on top? - Thanks, James From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 15:26:34 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMQXn05064; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMQWg11251; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: IDL In-Reply-To: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 748 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 53 I haven't tried atv, but I don't get the dyld errors nor do subsequent plot commands require clicking. There's got to be some (probably small!) difference in our IDL and/or X configurations. On Wed, 21 May 2003, james r. graham 649 wrote: > > 3) Is there a way to change the window focus in X11/XFree86 without > having to click on the window first. Most X11 desktop managers allow you to > select the window focus simply by placing the mouse pointer over the > window without clicking (or for that matter without raising it---BTW > does the window with focus have to be on top? > I can help with this though! % defaults write com.apple.x11 wm_ffm true will do the trick. This nugget is buried in the "man quartz-wm" documentation. -saurabh From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 15:30:50 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMUnn05361; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LMUlc23981; Wed, 21 May 2003 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, Subject: Re: IDL In-Reply-To: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1059 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 54 > 2) IDL crashes frequently with the following error: > > dyld: /usr/local/rsi/idl_5.6/bin/bin.darwin.ppc/idl dead lock (dyld > operation attempted in a thread already doing a dyld operation) > Trace/BPT trap This guy seems to have had this problem as well: http://www.shorl.com/divuruvostevi [comp.lang.idl-pvwave] I'll check out if I can reproduce the atv crash when my model writes to output... have you tried renaming your "start.idl" file? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "SCO is alleging that IBM misappropriated from SCO technologies which do not appear in SCO's own product." Eric Raymond and Rob Landley http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html#id2788930 From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 21 16:01:30 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LN1Sn06781; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4LN1QH24203; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: "james r. graham 649" cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: IDL In-Reply-To: <200305212219.h4LMJpS29509@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 978 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 55 > 1) Running ATV crashes the entire x11 system (I am using X11 beta 3 > - XFree86 4.2.1). This kill all my xterms, emacs, etc. etc. I only > have to type atv and try and click on the ATV wind for this to > happen. I got mixed results. I compiled ATV (what a cool program!) and it crashed IDL on the first execution. I restarted IDL, tried again, and it works perfectly. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall jhall@astro.berkeley.edu Graduate Student astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "SCO is alleging that IBM misappropriated from SCO technologies which do not appear in SCO's own product." Eric Raymond and Rob Landley http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html#id2788930 From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri May 23 17:58:55 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4O0wkv27546; Fri, 23 May 2003 17:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:00:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: a very cool screen saver. From: Franck Marchis Message-Id: <10F1322D-8D83-11D7-AF3E-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 493 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 56 To discover our solar system it is nice and very interesting... it costs only 9.95$ but the demo version is complete. http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/icons_screensavers/cosmosaver.html Cheers F. --- Franck Marchis ------------------------- Phone: +1 510 642 3958 -- Postdoct/University of California Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA --http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 28 02:45:08 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4S9j7h28447 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 02:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 02:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: color? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 191 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 57 Hi, When I run Apple's X11, I can't seem to get any color (for example, if I use ls --color=auto, it looks the same as normal). Does anyone have any advice on this subject? Thanks, Karin From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 28 14:06:24 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4SL6LQ14617 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:06:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: printing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 88 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 58 Hi, Does anyone know how to print to the department printers from your laptop? Karin From plonsey@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed May 28 15:06:19 2003 Received: from sunra (sunra [128.32.92.89]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4SM6I119295 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305282206.h4SM6I119295@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 15:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Plonsey Reply-To: Dan Plonsey Subject: Re: printing? To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: j88OshR7KWHsqtJCdxW9HQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 253 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 59 > Does anyone know how to print to the department printers from your laptop? > This is an opportunity for me to tell (or remind) the list that I'm compiling an FAQ as we go. See: http://astron.berkeley.edu/computing/macfaq.html#printingtosun Dan From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 29 17:24:53 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4U0OqH08976 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:24:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: opening a downloaded file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 503 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 60 Hi everyone, Another question from me. I'm full of them this week. I was wondering if it was possible to set something up so that when I download a postscript file it will open automatically, like pdf files. I have ghostview, which I got with fink, and it works fine...and I don't particularly want to download the mac version of ghostview. to open ghostview, I need to be in the x11 though, and I can't figure out a way to make the postscript file open automatically. Any advice? thanks, Karin From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 29 18:15:36 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h4U1FZ410194 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 18:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200305300115.h4U1FZ410194@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 18:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: opening a downloaded file To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: mC23541NLxC5z0StmYYhhw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1317 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 61 I don't know the exact answer to the question, but when you have a file that was just downloaded to your Desktop, you would double-click the icon to open it. But for the cases where you want to force a specific application to open a .pdf or .ps or .whatever, you click the icon once, then hold down the option key, move your cursor to the File menu, where you will see the menu item "Always open with...". Here you have the ability to open this type of file with a specific application on you hard drive. But, for the postscript files, and the X11, I dunno. >X-UIDL: f42b1ab3539958acebac5f9dd883127d >Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:24:52 -0700 (PDT) >From: Karin Sandstrom >X-X-Sender: karin@astron >To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >Subject: opening a downloaded file > >Hi everyone, > >Another question from me. I'm full of them this week. > >I was wondering if it was possible to set something up so that when I >download a postscript file it will open automatically, like pdf files. I >have ghostview, which I got with fink, and it works fine...and I don't >particularly want to download the mac version of ghostview. to open >ghostview, I need to be in the x11 though, and I can't figure out a way to >make the postscript file open automatically. > >Any advice? > >thanks, >Karin From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu May 29 19:20:27 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4U2KQ412156; Thu, 29 May 2003 19:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4U2KON00962; Thu, 29 May 2003 19:20:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:20:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: Karin Sandstrom cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: opening a downloaded file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1234 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 62 Unfortunately you can't use "open with" and just specify "ghostview" or "gv" or whatever. You need to use an OS X app. I bet there's some clever way to create an OS X app that just runs "gv" with the filename using AppleScript, but I don't know any AppleScript. [by the way, if you set your DISPLAY to ":0" in your .login or equivalent, you can run X programs directly from your Mac Terminal windows, which I find easier on the eyes than xterms. Just make sure X11 is running of course.] Absent that, there are two options I know about, neither of which is ideal. There's a program called "MacGhostView" (http://www.kiffe.com/macghostview.html) that does exactly what you need, if you're willing to pay $20 for the shareware. Another option is to get TeXShop which is a TeX GUI -- it has an automatic ps to pdf converter, so if you open a postscript file with it, you automatically get a pdf preview. This works great on some postscript files and horribly on others (i.e. the fonts are often unreadable, etc.) But it's free. -saurabh ps. in lookin up MacGhostView I ran across this page "MacOS X for Particle Theorists" hosted right here at Berkeley, with a lot of good links in one place: http://hitoshi.berkeley.edu/macosx/ From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri May 30 11:17:28 2003 Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h4UIHR428495 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 11:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 11:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@astron To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: color ls and etc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 777 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 63 Hi, I figured out how to get color ls, and since I find it so useful, I thought I should share it with you guys. This may be fairly obvious to some people (not me!) but color is not a standard part of the ls function, you need to get a different version of ls which supports it. If you have fink the fileutils 4.1.3 package has this ls and when you have installed it you can just alias ls to "/sw/bin/ls --color" I hope somebody finds this useful, I always love to see the directories in blue personally :-) As for my previous question about opening x11 applications like postscript outside of the command line, I've found that it is definitely going to require some kind of script writing that I don't know how to do. If I ever figure it out, I'll let you know. Karin From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 10 10:35:54 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5AHZr428451 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5AHZq221973 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:35:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:35:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [Macusers] creating a root account Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 669 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 64 Hey Mac Users, If you've ever wondered how to log into your Mac as Superuser you should read this quick tutorial on how to set up a root account: http://www.osxfaq.com/Tutorials/Root_User_Creation/index.ws For most administrative tasks typing "sudo" before the command should suffice. For example: sudo chmod u+w /etc/ssh_config But if you ever screw up and do something like change the perissions of your /etc/sudoers file (which I did last night, thus disabling sudo. Doh!) you'll need to log in as root to fix things. _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 10 12:08:52 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5AJ8q402949 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306101908.h5AJ8q402949@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:08:52 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: creating a root account: sudo su To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: m1qzBPJ30xB1okZBk0fBWA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 185 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 65 I would also suggest using the command "sudo su" Creating a root user as shown in the tutorial takes some time and effort, but "sudo su" typed in your x11 window will make you root. From kelley@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 10 15:13:38 2003 Received: from beast (beast [128.32.92.126]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5AMDb413462 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306102213.h5AMDb413462@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelley McDonald Reply-To: Kelley McDonald Subject: allowing "Remote Login" under Mac OS X To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: r3U4WEh/Pip3m59AqzDLyA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.3_06 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 629 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 66 I would like to advise everyone that uses Mac OS X to double check that their machine is not allowing "Remote Logins", this is done by making sure that the checkbox for "Remote Login" is not checked under the control panel "Sharing" icon. It is unwise to let others login or attempt to login remotely to your laptop. Please check these settings and make sure you have it configured safely. Thanks, Kelley ------------------------------------------------------ Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 11 09:21:56 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5BGLt414736; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5BGLrH15596; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:21:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Louis-Benoit Desroches cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: replacing "control-M" in emacs... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1166 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 67 I just figured this out... figured I should post it. (this was inspired by the fact that pasting from Mozilla often leaves "^M" where each line should be carriage returned) Say you have a file that has a bunch of "^M" characters (like a MS-DOS file)... how do you replace the "^M" characters with a carriage return in emacs? Here's how: 1) go to the top of said file ("M-<") 2) start a query-replace. On my emacs this is "M-%" but you can also do "M-x query-replace" if that doesn't work for you. 3) tell it to look for "^M" by typing "C-q C-M" and hit RETURN. (Note: the "C-q" is to tell emacs that you want the next thing typed to be a control character instead of "^M" (a "carat" and an "M")) 4) you want to replace it with a carriage return which is "^J"... to enter this type "C-q C-J". (Note: the minibuffer will probably actually do a carriage return... this isn't a problem). Hit RETURN. 5) to replace all occurences in the query-replace, hit "!" and you should now be done. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 11 09:50:57 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5BGov415607 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306111650.h5BGov415607@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:50:57 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: OSX vs. Solaris To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: zwDw1+ymXBGRf9LVng8qww== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 679 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 68 Hi, What can the department Sun/Solaris system do, that the Mac/OSX can't do? It might be interesting, and useful, to keep a tally. Any ideas? In my work, I have only two things to list: ------------------------------------------------ Operating System scp2 (secure copy client) scp1 exists on the Mac, but not scp2. Applications like Fugu might be a workaround ------------------------------------------------ STScI/HST: APT 12.2.2 (Astronomer's Proposal Tool) Needed to prepare proposals (Phase I) and to schedule telescope orbits (Phase II). APT will work on the Mac for Phase I, but not on Phase II. ----------------------------------------------- From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 11 18:23:31 2003 Received: from phoebe.Berkeley.EDU (phoebe [128.32.92.14]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5C1NU408062 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by phoebe.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5C1NT113818 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:23:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: phoebe.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:23:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@phoebe To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: odd problems with "man" in OSX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1570 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 69 Hello Mac experts, I'm getting a bizarre error when I try to get a man page for anything on my Mac system. Here's a sample: ******************* louis% man ls /usr/bin/man: illegal option -- C man, version 1.1 usage: man [-adfhktw] [section] [-M path] [-P pager] [-S list] [-m machine] [-p string] name ... a : find all matching entries d : print gobs of debugging information f : same as whatis(1) h : print this help message k : same as apropos(1) t : use troff to format pages for printing w : print location of man page(s) that would be displayed M path : set search path for manual pages to `path' P pager : use program `pager' to display pages S list : colon separated section list m machine : search for alternate architecture man pages p string : string tells which preprocessors to run e - [n]eqn(1) p - pic(1) t - tbl(1) g - grap(1) r - refer(1) v - vgrind(1) ************** Now I have no idea what this illegal option --C is all about. The rest is just the system telling me how to properly use man, but it still gives me the same error anytime I try to use. I have no aliases setup, so it's not that. Any thoughts, oh wise ones? I'm thinking the man binary is messed up. ================================================================ Louis-Benoit Desroches (510) 642-2359 Graduate Student louis@astro.berkeley.edu Astronomy Department astron.berkeley.edu/~louis University of California, Berkeley 601 Campbell Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 12 08:49:35 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5CFnY427684 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306121549.h5CFnY427684@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:49:36 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: update ghostscript with Fink To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 5/5vDFVFvMEXH5aatiqLnA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 594 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 70 I wanted to update my Ghostscript6 with Ghostscript7. The following command did not work because Fink could not overwrite Ghostscript6: sudo fink install ghostscript Then, the following command did not work because ghostscript6 is something that gv requires, and gv was installed on my system: sudo fink remove ghostscript6 Therefore, to upgrade, here are the steps that worked quickly and without a hitch: sudo fink remove gv sudo fink remove ghostscript6 sudo install ghostscript sudo fink install gv Note that "sudo install ghostscript" defaults to the latest version, 7.04. From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 12 15:52:54 2003 Received: from kerns.Berkeley.EDU (kerns [128.32.92.123]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5CMqf414440 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by kerns.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5CMqgY09497 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:52:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kerns.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:52:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@kerns To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: odd problems with "man" in OSX In-Reply-To: <02E6FBD6-9D09-11D7-9C55-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 736 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 71 Update - So, it turns out that I have TWO man binaries on my computer. One was in the /sw/bin/ directory and the other in /usr/bin/. The /sw directory is a result of Fink, so I guess it must have downloaded a version of man and setup some sort of alias (which I cannot find, BTW) to it. Weird. Anyway, I've fixed the problem by rewriting an alias to /usr/bin in my startup file. Seems to fix the problem. Odd. Thanks for your tips. ================================================================ Louis-Benoit Desroches (510) 642-2359 Graduate Student louis@astro.berkeley.edu Astronomy Department astron.berkeley.edu/~louis University of California, Berkeley 601 Campbell Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 11:46:16 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DIkF408701 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:46:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Mail.app cannot read astron mail From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <503AD51B-9DCF-11D7-948F-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 583 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 72 Just an update on my previous problem. It seems that every 3 days or so I could get Mail.app to read the mail server. Today it's working better. I did two things that seemed to help: 1) deleted a large (3 MB) e-mail that I had on /var/mail/kalas on astron. 2) on astron, in the preferences of my mailtool, I increased the interval that mailtool checks mail from 30 seconds to 300 seconds. My guess is that if Solaris mailtool was checking for new mail every 30 seconds, even if I have quit the mailtool, then Mail.app had only a narrow window to access /var/mail/kalas. From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 11:55:46 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DItj409029 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DItii27822 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:55:44 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [macusers] rsync Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1441 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 73 My People, I just read the mac faq about using rsync. I'd like to modify Joe's example a bit: rsync -rzu --exclude="CVS" --rsh=ssh ~/idl/ johnjohn@cepheus:/a/johnjohn/idl/ I found it necessary to use the -u (update) switch for the following reason: Suppose you make a bunch of changes to some idl files on your laptop. The same (older) files are on your astron account. No problem, just rsync the entire idl directory. rsync will of course only transfer the files that are different between the two directories. Cool! But what if you made changes on some different idl files while on your astron account? Well, if you don't use -u, you'll overwrite these changes with the older version on your laptop unless you rsync one file at a time. Lame! The update switch ensures no newer files on the destination account get overwritten during the rsync transfer. -r recurses directories, I guess it's the same as -a I also exclude all of my CVS directories since I'm running CVS on both my mac and at school. Overwriting CVS/ directories would be bad, bad, bad. Does anyone else use --exclude? If so, do you know how to specify multiple exclude patterns? I'd like to exclude the *~ and #*# files emacs creates as backups. Also, if you are a CVS user I'd love to swap notes/ideas with you. word, _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 12:03:19 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3J409240; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3JB30817; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:19 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: [macusers] rsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1914 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 74 You can create a list of things to exclude by using --exclude-from=file The format of the file is: filename *.ini *~ etc.. I use CVS extensively. --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, John Johnson wrote: > My People, > > I just read the mac faq about using rsync. I'd like to modify Joe's > example a bit: > > rsync -rzu --exclude="CVS" --rsh=ssh ~/idl/ johnjohn@cepheus:/a/johnjohn/idl/ > > I found it necessary to use the -u (update) switch for the following > reason: Suppose you make a bunch of changes to some idl files on your > laptop. The same (older) files are on your astron account. No problem, > just rsync the entire idl directory. rsync will of course only transfer > the files that are different between the two directories. Cool! > > But what if you made changes on some different idl files while on your > astron account? Well, if you don't use -u, you'll overwrite these changes > with the older version on your laptop unless you rsync one file at a time. > Lame! The update switch ensures no newer files on the destination > account get overwritten during the rsync transfer. > > -r recurses directories, I guess it's the same as -a > > I also exclude all of my CVS directories since I'm running CVS on both my > mac and at school. Overwriting CVS/ directories would be bad, bad, bad. > > Does anyone else use --exclude? If so, do you know how to specify multiple > exclude patterns? I'd like to exclude the *~ and #*# files emacs creates > as backups. > > Also, if you are a CVS user I'd love to swap notes/ideas with you. > > word, > _____________________________________________________________________ > JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn > > > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 12:03:19 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3I409237; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ3Gm16849; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: [macusers] rsync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 955 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 75 > Does anyone else use --exclude? If so, do you know how to specify > multiple exclude patterns? I'd like to exclude the *~ and #*# files > emacs creates as backups. you should be able to add: --exclude '*~' --exclude '*#' --exclude '#*' you can also create an exclude.txt file that has the lines: *~ *# #* and then use --exclude-from (although make sure you check the rsync man page)... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell Please don't send Word documents via email! Why? http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/export/attachments.html Please consider using PDFs instead. How? http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 12:08:37 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ8a409345; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJ8bM30942; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:08:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:08:37 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: James Colby Kraybill cc: John Johnson , Subject: [macusers] Using rsync and CVS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2610 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 76 By the by, you should not use rsync to synchronize directories under CVS control. This defeats the entire purpose of CVS version control. You will most likely end up having merge problems if you are synchronizing the same files between two sandboxes. The proper way is to do all synchronization via CVS. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > > You can create a list of things to exclude by using --exclude-from=file > > The format of the file is: > > filename > *.ini > *~ > > etc.. > > I use CVS extensively. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, John Johnson wrote: > > > My People, > > > > I just read the mac faq about using rsync. I'd like to modify Joe's > > example a bit: > > > > rsync -rzu --exclude="CVS" --rsh=ssh ~/idl/ johnjohn@cepheus:/a/johnjohn/idl/ > > > > I found it necessary to use the -u (update) switch for the following > > reason: Suppose you make a bunch of changes to some idl files on your > > laptop. The same (older) files are on your astron account. No problem, > > just rsync the entire idl directory. rsync will of course only transfer > > the files that are different between the two directories. Cool! > > > > But what if you made changes on some different idl files while on your > > astron account? Well, if you don't use -u, you'll overwrite these changes > > with the older version on your laptop unless you rsync one file at a time. > > Lame! The update switch ensures no newer files on the destination > > account get overwritten during the rsync transfer. > > > > -r recurses directories, I guess it's the same as -a > > > > I also exclude all of my CVS directories since I'm running CVS on both my > > mac and at school. Overwriting CVS/ directories would be bad, bad, bad. > > > > Does anyone else use --exclude? If so, do you know how to specify multiple > > exclude patterns? I'd like to exclude the *~ and #*# files emacs creates > > as backups. > > > > Also, if you are a CVS user I'd love to swap notes/ideas with you. > > > > word, > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn > > > > > > > > > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 12:52:19 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJqI410277 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DJqG516888 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:52:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:52:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: meta in emacs on macs... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1565 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 77 I just wanted to follow-up on a post from a while back from James... If you're an emacs user then you've probably experimentally determined that the Command key only works as the meta key when there is no defined command for that operation in OS X (for example, open a file in emacs... command-< or command-> work exactly like M-< and M-> but command-x and command-q do not because the OS gets these commands before emacs does). So what's the proper solution... you can use ESC... although that's far away and uncomfortable... others [1] have commented that you could possibly use the option/alt key as the meta key by inserting the line: (setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil) in your .emacs file... although I haven't gotten this to work. What's my solution... it may sound weird but "C-[" works just like the ESC key but is easier for me (I don't have to look at the keyboard and find the ESC key) eventhough it's two keys... anyone else have any thoughts? Joe [1] http://www.shorl.com/bostofrupigota ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell Please don't send Word documents via email! Why? http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/export/attachments.html Please consider using PDFs instead. How? http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 13:10:59 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DKAw410713 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:10:37 -0700 Subject: Re: Real Men vs. Mail.app Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <18FDC4A6-9DDB-11D7-948F-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 405 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 78 Pine worked fine on the Mac. As a real man, I tried it back in the year 2002. It's a good backup in case Mail.app doesn't work. But if you want to be a super-man, you have to use Mail.app. For example, in Pine, 1) can you auto-complete e-mail addresses by typing in even the smallest fragment of a name? 2) can you double click an attachment and have it open in MSWord, PowerPoint, or whatever? From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 13:14:44 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DKEi410970; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DKEgZ16901; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:14:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:14:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Paul Kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Real Men vs. Mail.app In-Reply-To: <18FDC4A6-9DDB-11D7-948F-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 268 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 79 > Pine worked fine on the Mac. As a real man, I tried it back in the > year 2002. It's a good backup in case Mail.app doesn't work. can we keep conflicts/ educated discussion, off-list? I know of a few females on the list that could care less who's a real man... From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 13:18:46 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DKIk411313 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:20:14 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Real Men vs. Mail.app From: Franck Marchis To: macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <714B3700-9DDC-11D7-8458-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1026 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 80 Ok because it is Friday... Mail.app is completely integrated to the Mac OS. it is easy to use to send attachments, read attachment files. it is linked with other softwares like "address book" and iCAl, it can read mail written in other languages than English (languages used by more than 5 billions of people on the planet), even with a different alphabet. Note also that it is also used by the younger students, since we are willing to communicate with them we should also use the same tool and don't oblige them to use our primitive software. So prehistorical real men use Pine, modern women and men use Mail.app :-) Cheers F. --- Franck Marchis ------------------------------ Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA --http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 13:46:02 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5DKjx412171 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306132045.h5DKjx412171@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: Real Men vs. Mail.app To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: pWPr0E/GMZWQhw//DNzakw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 656 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 81 JohnJohn probably meant real "people", but I can't speak for him. >can we keep conflicts/ educated discussion, off-list? It depends what the macuser list is for. Are there any rules? I'd rather have it for info PLUS discussion. But if Joe is right, we should exclude any info or discussion on iTunes, since nothing in iTunes is part of our job description. To add to Franck's eloquent exposition on Mail.app, the OSX system accepts unicode font. Thus, for the first time on a Mac, one can type an e-mail in say, Greek, and send it. Previously you needed an operating system entirely with the Greek language to type something in that language. From jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jun 13 14:02:08 2003 Received: from graham.Berkeley.EDU (graham [128.32.92.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5DL25413448 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "james r. graham 649" Received: (from jrg@localhost) by graham.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h5DL25Q14663 for macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU; Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306132102.h5DL25Q14663@graham.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: scisoft X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 118 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 82 Has anyone tried out ESO's bundle of astronomical software packages: http://www.stecf.org/macosxscisoft/ - James From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Sun Jun 15 13:08:58 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5FK8p419312 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5FK8nA17908 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: no more IE and synergy... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 845 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 83 1) Micro$oft isn't going to put out any more versions of IE for the Mac... time to move to Mozilla, Safari or something else: http://news.com.com/2100-1045_3-1017126.html 2) Speaking of iTunes... if you like music as much as I do then you probably would like to know about a little app called Synergy that will allow you to do all sorts of nifty things... for example, I have F9-F11 on my powerbook mapped to iTunes' "back", "forward" and "pause" respectively... as well I've used it to define command-option-s to toggle between shuffle and no-shuffle... if you're interested (it's $5 if you want it forever): http://synergy.wincent.com/ happy father's day to the pops out there, Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 17 17:26:12 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5I0QB426844 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:22:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: electronic scientific notebook From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 1526 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 84 I've recently started using the Mac to keep an electronic scientific notebook. It works very efficiently, and it's simple. Here are a few applications to get started: TextEdit: Instead of emacs or vi, use this. Comes with MacOSX, in the Applications folder. In the "Format" menu, you can toggle an open file between plain text and rich text. The main advantage is that you can drag images into rich text documents. flower-shift-4: This key combinations takes an image of anything that's on the screen. The image is saved on the Desktop as a pdf file called "Picture 1", etc. Snapz ProX: This gives you more flexibility than flower-shift-4, because you can save the screen capture as a jpg, and you give the file a name that is more meaningful than "Picture 1". Once you open the application Snapz ProX, you hit flower-shift-3 and you get a menu of options. I think this is shareware. LaTeX Equation Editor: Freeware which allows you to type in latex equations, which it then renders and sends to the desktop as an image. flower-C, flower-V, left button click, middle button click: You need these to copy-paste text from X11 windows or pdf files into you logbook. The main cool thing is that if you have your TextEdit logbook open, you can click-drag the image files on your desktop straight into your document. Thus, very rapidly, one can take snapshots of tables and figures from papers, images displayed on ATV or DS9, or equation you write yourself, and put them in the electronic notebook. From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jun 17 17:36:20 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5I0aJ427147 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5I0aI319278 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:36:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:36:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: meta-key in emacs... last one... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1036 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 85 Eventhough I just got used to C-[ as the meta key... I just noticed that there is another way around this. Specifically, you can open the "Preferences" option of the X11 menu (at the top of your screen when running anything in X11)... then you can uncheck "Enable key equivalents under X11". This means that the Command (or "flower") key no longer works as such and works perfectly as the Meta key in emacs. Now if only I could get the window focus to follow my mouse! Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell Please don't send Word documents via email! Why? http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall/export/attachments.html Please consider using PDFs instead. How? http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 07:34:45 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IEYi409529 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IEYhw00584 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:34:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:34:43 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: focus follows mouse, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1187 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 86 On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > Now if only I could get the window focus to follow my mouse! > I used Fink to download and install the Gnome desktop manager. It works just like it does under Linux including a menu where you can set the focus to follow your mouse. I even have a workspace manager which allows me to have multiple desktops (like CodeTek but free). The only downside is that non-X windows don't obey the focus settings. But I rarely use non-Gnome or non-X applications anymore. A great note-taking tool is Lyx. It's a Latex-based WYSIWYG "word processor." You just type normally, highlight what you want to be a title, subtitle, bold, etc and if you need an equation just hit ctrl-m. If you want an eqnarray, just use the pull-down menu. You can even insert entire lines of Tex. Hit ctrl-D and it compiles the document and launches xdvi. When you are done with your notes/paper/document, just export as a PDF, PS, DVI or even an emacs-editable LaTex file. Lyx does everything Latex does, just with a much easier interface. Check out the graphical tour: http://www.lyx.org/about/lgt-1.0/lgt.html You can download and install Lyx via Fink. JohnJohn From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 07:43:03 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IEh2409701; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IEh1319614; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:43:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:43:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: focus follows mouse, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 877 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 87 > I used Fink to download and install the Gnome desktop manager. It > works just like it does under Linux including a menu where you can > set the focus to follow your mouse. James pointed out to me that you can get focus follows mouse in the newer versions of Apple's X11 by typing the following at the command line and restarting X11... (I haven't thoroughly tested this out much since it doesn't actually "raise" the windows to the front of the stack): defaults write com.apple.x11 wm_ffm true (to undo this... type "defaults write com.apple.x11 delete wm_ffm") I would be interested in hearing other macusers advice with respect to window managers as I really miss being able to have multiple workspaces... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From krabbe@ssl.berkeley.edu Wed Jun 18 09:43:34 2003 Received: from sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu (sunspot.SSL.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.147.25]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IGhX412614 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.32.124.144] (kachru.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.124.144]) by sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with SMTP id h5IGhPuL001700 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: krabbe@sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:42:20 -0700 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Alfred Krabbe Subject: Fink Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Length: 464 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 88 I am a relatively new OSX user following the various conversations. Can somebody briefly explain what "Fink" is or direct me to a site? Thanks, Alfred -- --------------------------------------------- Alfred Krabbe, 366 Le Conte Hall #7300 Tel.: (510) 642-8358 University of California Fax: (510) 643-8497 Berkeley, CA, 94720 mail: krabbe@ssl.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 09:48:56 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IGmu412717; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IGmtM19713; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Alfred Krabbe cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Fink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 611 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 89 > I am a relatively new OSX user following the various conversations. > Can somebody briefly explain what "Fink" is or direct me to a site? Fink is a package installer that can keep track of and update all sorts of packages for OSX. Most of us (I think) use fink and a GUI front-end called Fink Commander: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/fink.html http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_source/finkcommander.html Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 09:57:15 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IGvE413082 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IGvDO00653 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:57:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Fink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 983 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 90 You'll have to install the Developer Tools package in order to use Fink. You can download Developer Tools from the mac website: http://developer.apple.com/tools/macosxtools.html I can't remember how I installed Tools, but I'm pretty sure I found the .pkg file on my hard drive. Can anyone verify this? _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Alfred Krabbe wrote: > I am a relatively new OSX user following the various conversations. > Can somebody briefly explain what "Fink" is or direct me to a site? > > Thanks, > > Alfred > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------- > Alfred Krabbe, 366 Le Conte Hall #7300 > Tel.: (510) 642-8358 University of California > Fax: (510) 643-8497 Berkeley, CA, 94720 > mail: krabbe@ssl.berkeley.edu > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 10:01:01 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IH11413204 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IH10r00658 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:01:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: ah hah, tools Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 537 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 91 I just answered my own question. The Developer.mpkg file is on your hard drive (at least it was on mine). Just open up your hard drive and use the finder to look for "developer". Then just double click the .mpkg file to install it. The Fink website wasn't very clear about this. It just says, "Make sure you have installed Developer Tools." But it doesn't say how. Or maybe I just missed it. _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 10:02:34 2003 Received: from phoebe.Berkeley.EDU (phoebe [128.32.92.14]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IH2Y413266 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by phoebe.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IH2Xn20815 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:02:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: phoebe.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@phoebe cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Fink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 767 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 92 > You'll have to install the Developer Tools package in order to use > Fink. You can download Developer Tools from the mac website: > > http://developer.apple.com/tools/macosxtools.html > > I can't remember how I installed Tools, but I'm pretty sure I found the > .pkg file on my hard drive. Can anyone verify this? I'm pretty sure that you only need the Developer Tools if you want to compile the packages from source. If you get them as binaries then you don't need the Developer Tools. I think I downloaded the Developer Tools from the Apple website (just go there and do a search). It involved filling out a short survey of some kind but in the end it's free and comes with a huge pile of compilers (C, C++, f77, g77, f90, etc....) so I guess it's worth it. From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 10:02:37 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IH2a413270 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IH2ZD07577 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: focus follows mouse, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 620 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 93 On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > I would be interested in hearing other macusers advice with respect to > window managers as I really miss being able to have multiple > workspaces... This won't be helpful for you really (sorry!), but I wouldn't be surprised if the next incarnation of Apple's quartz-wm has multiple workspaces. "Virtual Desktop facility in X11 or in Mac OS X [!]" is on the common feature request list for Apple's X11. See the X11 faq (near the bottom) at http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1232.html Multiple desktops in OS X itself (not just X11) would be great... -saurabh From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 13:01:31 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IK1T419372 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5IK1SJ19844 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:01:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:01:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: burning data discs... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 291 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 94 Does anyone out there have advice as to burning data discs in Mac OS X? Preferably for free... I can't seem to figure it out... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 14:23:21 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5ILNG422671 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5ILNFu19890 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: burning data discs... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 877 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 95 Well, it seems that Mac OS X comes with some sort of data burning utility... but I couldn't find it. I did, however, find a suite of really neat free software apps that allow you to do burn CD/DVDs (if you have a DVD burner): 1) Use fink or what-have-you to get "cdrtools" (which includes "cdrecord" etc.) cdutils and cdrecord: http://www.shorl.com/byfridrohybate [fokus.gmd.de] (full URL in case shorl goes down in the future) http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/ private/cdrecord.html 2) Then get the Mac OS X .dmg of X-CD-roast from: http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/xcdrosX.html 3) Read the instructions for X-CD-roast carefully and enjoy limitless burning, mastering, etc. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 17:49:36 2003 Received: from physics9 (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id h5J0nZ400504; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306190049.h5J0nZ400504@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin Reply-To: Andrew Youdin Subject: Re: burning data discs... To: jhall@astron.berkeley.edu Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 2IpJQ6W04iA1AeiVy7CzLg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1261 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 96 If you're willing to consider commercial products, then Toast Titanium is an excellent burning app. For data it has the essential "write session" feature that allows you to write to a disk multiple times. Also it's very easy to use: drag and drop ... and it's also great for making audio CDs including auto-conversion from MP3 to CD (aiff)! -Andrew > > >Well, it seems that Mac OS X comes with some sort of data burning >utility... but I couldn't find it. > >I did, however, find a suite of really neat free software apps that >allow you to do burn CD/DVDs (if you have a DVD burner): > >1) Use fink or what-have-you to get "cdrtools" (which includes >"cdrecord" etc.) > >cdutils and cdrecord: >http://www.shorl.com/byfridrohybate [fokus.gmd.de] > >(full URL in case shorl goes down in the future) >http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/ >private/cdrecord.html > >2) Then get the Mac OS X .dmg of X-CD-roast from: >http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/xcdrosX.html > >3) Read the instructions for X-CD-roast carefully and enjoy limitless >burning, mastering, etc. > >Joe > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Joseph Lorenzo Hall >Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 19 13:36:31 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5JKaU424282 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5JKaT920502 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:36:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: screen effects... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 242 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 97 If you hate having that ".Mac" blank screen saver come up all the time: (this is a "screen effect" called randomExtra that allows you to pick which effects you want to run randomly): http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/16845 From youd@astron.berkeley.edu Wed Jun 25 20:22:17 2003 Received: from astro.berkeley.edu (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5Q3MG428292 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 20:24:33 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: preserving hard links From: Andrew Youdin To: macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 639 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 98 I have the following problem: Whenever I use emacs to change a file that is hard-linked to other copies of the file, it destroys any hard links, i.e. the changes do not appear in the linked copies ... defeating the purpose of the link!! When I use the pico editor I do not have this problem, but it's a pain to use pico with big files. Why am I using hard links instead of symbolic links? Because I can't get TexShop (which is otherwise an excellent Latex front end) to read a .bib file that is a symbolic link. The links are made using: ln dir1/refs.bib dir2/refs.bib any suggestions from the emacs/unix experts? Andrew From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 26 04:33:30 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu ([147.52.182.98]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5QBXR406160 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 04:33:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:33:24 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: sending mail From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 687 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 99 So I'm continuing my attempts to get Mail.app to work. My previous problem in reading mail from the astron server seems to be linked to e-mail sent by ATT Wireless. An URL in the file seems to crash Mail.app. The new question is this: I am now at a different university connected through a manual IP (not DHCP), with a subnet mask 255.255.255.0, router and DNS server provided by the host institution. I can retrieve my mail from astron.berkeley.edu, and I can send mail to xyz@astron.berkeley.edu, but I cannot send e-mail to any other address. For an outgoing mail server I've tried astron.berkeley.edu, astro.berkeley.edu, and mars.berkeley.edu. Any ideas? Thanks, Paul From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 26 10:02:03 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5QH20412858; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5QH21c11156; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:02:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 10:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Paul Kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, Subject: Re: sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2043 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 100 In that sort of arrangement, astro will be acting as an e-mail relay. This is usually turned off because if it is allowed, spammers could use astro as a general relay to the rest of the internet. Very Bad and would likely get astro blacklisted. However, there are straightforward solutions to this. There are ways to set up sendmail to pay attention to a dynamic list of users who are accessing their e-mail via pop (or IMAP if our e-mail system were set up in a sane way). Your IP is added to the list and held there for ~15 minutes and will allow your e-mail client to relay e-mail through astro. I set this up for soda.csua last year and it's worked well for those 10^3 users or so. The 15 minutes works out well because e-mail applications that use pop/imap will check for new mail on the order of every five minutes. So, in essence, the answer is probably that you will not be able to relay the e-mail, unless your IP is going to be static for a prolonged period of time and you can talk Kelley into putting into an allowed relay list. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Paul Kalas wrote: > So I'm continuing my attempts to get Mail.app to work. My previous > problem > in reading mail from the astron server seems to be linked to e-mail > sent by > ATT Wireless. An URL in the file seems to crash Mail.app. > > The new question is this: > > I am now at a different university connected through a manual IP (not > DHCP), > with a subnet mask 255.255.255.0, router and DNS server provided by the > host institution. > > I can retrieve my mail from astron.berkeley.edu, > and I can send mail to xyz@astron.berkeley.edu, but > I cannot send e-mail to any other address. For an outgoing mail server > I've > tried astron.berkeley.edu, astro.berkeley.edu, and mars.berkeley.edu. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Paul > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jun 26 11:53:23 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5QIrM417006; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5QIrGb24659; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:53:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:53:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: James Colby Kraybill cc: Paul Kalas , , Subject: Re: sending mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 693 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 101 > However, there are straightforward solutions to this. Don't we have some sort of SMTP (push) kind of set-up on astron that allows POP retrieval from astron and then SMTP sending from mail.berkeley.edu (or something like that)? This isn't a newfangled technology and should be available. My broad point here is this: There has to be other people in the astronomy department (besides Paul) that don't ssh into the astron network to check mail... what do they do? (I didn't see this on the "computer resources" astron webpage). Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Sun Jun 29 16:59:36 2003 Received: from physics9.Berkeley.EDU (physics9 [128.32.92.175]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5TNxY409105; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (youd@localhost) by physics9.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5TNxZF09177; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:59:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Youdin To: Greg Novak cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: preserving hard links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1782 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 102 Greg- Thanks, that's useful info to have. And yes I am trying to have one central .bib file. Actually, I had already done this by putting the .bib file in the ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/ directory on my Mac. The reason I also wanted a copy of the .bib file in the working directory was so that I could transfer a single directory (with no external dependencies) to the astron network, to a collaborator, etc. Eventually I may have to bite the bullet and learn something complicated (like CVS I suppose) to do this. -Andrew ------------------------------------------------ Andrew N. Youdin youd@astron.berkeley.edu 510-642-6022 fax:642-3411 On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Greg Novak wrote: > I assume that you're doing this b/c you want to have one central .bib file > that you use for all of your references? If so, a work around may be to > set BIBINPUTS to something like: > > setenv BIBINPUTS .:~/tex > > Then you won't need a hard link and bibtex will still find your master > .bib file in ~/tex > > Greg > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Andrew Youdin wrote: > > > I have the following problem: > > > > Whenever I use emacs to change a file that is hard-linked to other > > copies of > > the file, it destroys any hard links, i.e. the changes do not appear in > > the linked copies > > ... defeating the purpose of the link!! When I use the pico editor I > > do not have this > > problem, but it's a pain to use pico with big files. > > > > Why am I using hard links instead of symbolic links? Because I can't > > get TexShop > > (which is otherwise an excellent Latex front end) to read a .bib file > > that is a symbolic > > link. > > > > The links are made using: > > ln dir1/refs.bib dir2/refs.bib > > > > any suggestions from the emacs/unix experts? > > > > Andrew > > > From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jun 30 00:07:46 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu ([147.52.182.98]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5U77i415364 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:07:46 +0300 Subject: Re: sending mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8D3B4969-AAC9-11D7-BA9C-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Content-Length: 2376 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 103 Regarding Colby's suggestion of relaying e-mail if you are at a static IP, here is Kelley's response: > Date: Fri Jun 27, 2003 6:57:34 PM Europe/Athens > To: kalas@astron.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: sending mail > Reply-To: Kelley McDonald > > This is not going to happen. We will not relay for any computers > outside > of our domain. Use ssh and pine or some mail client local to the > astronomy > department computers. > > Kelley > >> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:11:43 +0300 >> Subject: Re: sending mail >> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) >> From: Paul Kalas >> To: central >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Hi Kelley, >> >> The last paragraph in Colby's e-mail indicates that if I'm at a static >> IP for a while, then it may be possible to be added to a relay list >> for >> sending mail. If this is possible, here are the network settings that >> I'm working from all summer: >> >> IP: 147.52.182.98 >> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 >> Router: 147.52.182.1 >> DNS Server: 147.52.180.100 >> 147.52.180.101 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Paul >> >> >> On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 08:02 PM, James Colby Kraybill wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> In that sort of arrangement, astro will be acting as an e-mail >>> relay. This is usually turned off because if it is allowed, >>> spammers could use astro as a general relay to the rest of >>> the internet. Very Bad and would likely get astro blacklisted. >>> >>> However, there are straightforward solutions to this. There >>> are ways to set up sendmail to pay attention to a dynamic list >>> of users who are accessing their e-mail via pop (or IMAP if >>> our e-mail system were set up in a sane way). Your IP is >>> added to the list and held there for ~15 minutes and will allow >>> your e-mail client to relay e-mail through astro. I set this >>> up for soda.csua last year and it's worked well for those 10^3 >>> users or so. >>> >>> The 15 minutes works out well because e-mail applications that >>> use pop/imap will check for new mail on the order of every five >>> minutes. >>> >>> So, in essence, the answer is probably that you will not be >>> able to relay the e-mail, unless your IP is going to be static >>> for a prolonged period of time and you can talk Kelley into >>> putting into an allowed relay list. >>> >>> - Colby >>> From dreher@seti.org Mon Jun 30 08:02:38 2003 Received: from smtp.seti.org (smtp.seti.org [208.253.214.143]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UF2b419877; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seti.org (adsl-63-203-76-200.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.203.76.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.seti.org (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5UF2c3i002488; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:02:24 -0700 Subject: Re: sending mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: Paul Kalas From: John Dreher In-Reply-To: <8D3B4969-AAC9-11D7-BA9C-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 664 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 104 You probably can use the smtp server provided by your ISP to send mail. You can still read your mail using the POP server at the department. You can specify your "reply-to" with your usual email address, but you may need to use your ISP email account for the "from" field if the ISP is being careful. On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 12:07 AM, Paul Kalas wrote: > Regarding Colby's suggestion of relaying e-mail if you are at a static > IP, > here is Kelley's response: > >> This is not going to happen. We will not relay for any computers >> outside >> of our domain. Use ssh and pine or some mail client local to the >> astronomy >> department computers. From novak@ucolick.org Mon Jun 30 08:51:11 2003 Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (dionysus.ucolick.org [128.114.22.17]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UFpA421063; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5UFlZOI013901; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:47:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (novak@localhost) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h5UFlYhZ013897; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:47:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: dionysus.ucolick.org: novak owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:47:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Novak To: Andrew Youdin cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: preserving hard links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 3027 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 105 If I'm guessing correctly about how you're proposing to use CVS, you'll likely be disappointed. I tried to do something similar with CVS to share my bookmarks b/t my desktop running linux and my ibook. The problem was that linux wants the bookmarks to be in ~/.mozilla/ ... /bookmarks.html and the ibook wants them to be in ~/Library/Preferences/Mozilla/ ... /bookmarks.html. This was part of a larger CVS tree so the directories above the bookmarks.html file mattered to me (ie, I didn't want to have CVS control _only_ the directory w/ bookmarks.html and nothing else.) I wanted CVS to keep the two files in sync even though they resided in different places in the repository. This turns out to be impossible, as far as I can tell. CVS breaks hard links and soft links between the files b/c of the way it updates and the CVS faq indicates that there's no way to do this within CVS (though they suggest a variety of kludgy workarounds). Anyway, maybe more than you wanted to know but I thought I'd save you the trouble of trying to get CVS to do this. Maybe another tool... Greg On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Andrew Youdin wrote: > Greg- > > Thanks, that's useful info to have. And yes I am trying to have one > central .bib file. Actually, I had already done this by putting > the .bib file in the ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/ directory on my Mac. > > The reason I also wanted a copy of the .bib file in the working > directory was so that I could transfer a single directory (with > no external dependencies) to the astron network, to a > collaborator, etc. > > Eventually I may have to bite the bullet and learn something > complicated (like CVS I suppose) to do this. > > -Andrew > > > ------------------------------------------------ > Andrew N. Youdin youd@astron.berkeley.edu > 510-642-6022 fax:642-3411 > On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Greg Novak wrote: > > > I assume that you're doing this b/c you want to have one central .bib file > > that you use for all of your references? If so, a work around may be to > > set BIBINPUTS to something like: > > > > setenv BIBINPUTS .:~/tex > > > > Then you won't need a hard link and bibtex will still find your master > > .bib file in ~/tex > > > > Greg > > > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Andrew Youdin wrote: > > > > > I have the following problem: > > > > > > Whenever I use emacs to change a file that is hard-linked to other > > > copies of > > > the file, it destroys any hard links, i.e. the changes do not appear in > > > the linked copies > > > ... defeating the purpose of the link!! When I use the pico editor I > > > do not have this > > > problem, but it's a pain to use pico with big files. > > > > > > Why am I using hard links instead of symbolic links? Because I can't > > > get TexShop > > > (which is otherwise an excellent Latex front end) to read a .bib file > > > that is a symbolic > > > link. > > > > > > The links are made using: > > > ln dir1/refs.bib dir2/refs.bib > > > > > > any suggestions from the emacs/unix experts? > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jun 30 09:50:46 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UGoi422576; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UGohe02310; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk To: Greg Novak cc: Andrew Youdin , Subject: Re: preserving hard links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1151 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 106 I need to voice my perspective on this... links (hard or soft) are not meant to be edited with a text editor. This is like trying to change the value that a pointer points to in a programming language by editing the pointer... all you can do is tell it to point to a different place. My theory on what Andrew is experiencing is that emacs recognizes that you're trying to edit a link and copies the linked file to where you're trying to edit it... destroying the link but allowing you to edit "a file" that is a copy of the link. Anyone care to chime in? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall Astronomy Department 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell "Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct." --Justice Kennedy, Lawrence et al. v. Texas. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/02pdf/02-102.pdf From novak@ucolick.org Mon Jun 30 10:04:45 2003 Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (dionysus.ucolick.org [128.114.22.17]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UH4i423004; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5UH18OI014020; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:01:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (novak@localhost) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h5UH17WH014016; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:01:07 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: dionysus.ucolick.org: novak owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Novak To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: Andrew Youdin , macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: preserving hard links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1876 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 107 > Anyone care to chime in? Sure. My feeling is that links should like and behave like files at all times, all the while preserving their "linked-ness." The analogy with pointers is apt--I set a pointer to point to something, then I can look at and change that something through the pointer. What you describe would, I think, be like "read-only pointers"--you can look at things through them but don't touch. In any case I doubt that emacs is detecting hard links b/c I believe that this is rather difficult to do: it requires that you search the whole filesystem, comparing inode numbers. Ok, that's all from me on the subject, I promise. ;-) Greg On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > I need to voice my perspective on this... links (hard or soft) are not > meant to be edited with a text editor. This is like trying to change > the value that a pointer points to in a programming language by > editing the pointer... all you can do is tell it to point to a > different place. My theory on what Andrew is experiencing is that > emacs recognizes that you're trying to edit a link and copies the > linked file to where you're trying to edit it... destroying the link > but allowing you to edit "a file" that is a copy of the link. > > Joe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > Astronomy Department > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > "Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of > thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct." > --Justice Kennedy, Lawrence et al. v. Texas. > http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/02pdf/02-102.pdf > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jun 30 13:02:09 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UK27429044; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UK28812306; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:02:08 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Greg Novak cc: Joseph Lorenzo Hall , Andrew Youdin , Subject: Re: preserving hard links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2833 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 108 This has to do with how emacs creates a backup of a file during and after the editing process. It is not particular to links symbolic or hard. The underlying filesystem will present a symbolic and hard link as regular filestreams. I suspect that what emacs does by default on mac os x is to have a different backup policy than the version that generally ships on linux systems (gnu vs lucid/X emacs: http://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html) You might want to examine the various backup policy variables such as, backup-by-copying, backup-by-copying-when-linked and backup-by-copying-when-mismatch - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Greg Novak wrote: > > Anyone care to chime in? > > Sure. My feeling is that links should like and behave like files at all > times, all the while preserving their "linked-ness." The analogy with > pointers is apt--I set a pointer to point to something, then I can look at > and change that something through the pointer. What you describe would, > I think, be like "read-only pointers"--you can look at things through them > but don't touch. > > In any case I doubt that emacs is detecting hard links b/c I believe that > this is rather difficult to do: it requires that you search the whole > filesystem, comparing inode numbers. > > Ok, that's all from me on the subject, I promise. ;-) > > Greg > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > > > > I need to voice my perspective on this... links (hard or soft) are not > > meant to be edited with a text editor. This is like trying to change > > the value that a pointer points to in a programming language by > > editing the pointer... all you can do is tell it to point to a > > different place. My theory on what Andrew is experiencing is that > > emacs recognizes that you're trying to edit a link and copies the > > linked file to where you're trying to edit it... destroying the link > > but allowing you to edit "a file" that is a copy of the link. > > > > Joe > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > > Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > > Astronomy Department > > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > > > "Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of > > thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct." > > --Justice Kennedy, Lawrence et al. v. Texas. > > http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/02pdf/02-102.pdf > > > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jun 30 13:12:26 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UKCP429344; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h5UKCQu12315; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:12:26 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: novak@ucolick.org cc: Joseph Lorenzo Hall , Andrew Youdin , Subject: Re: preserving hard links In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 4315 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 109 Ah ha, and in particular, this post: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnumeric-list/2001-June/msg00052.html ... make-backup-files's value is t Documentation: *Non-nil means make a backup of a file the first time it is saved. This can be done by renaming the file or by copying. Renaming means that Emacs renames the existing file so that it is a backup file, then writes the buffer into a new file. Any other names that the old file had will now refer to the backup file. The new file is owned by you and its group is defaulted. Copying means that Emacs copies the existing file into the backup file, then writes the buffer on top of the existing file. Any other names that the old file had will now refer to the new (edited) file. The file's owner and group are unchanged. The choice of renaming or copying is controlled by the variables `backup-by-copying', `backup-by-copying-when-linked' and `backup-by-copying-when-mismatch'. See also `backup-inhibited'. ... So, probably what you need to do is set up emacs to make a copy when backup, instead of renaming. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > > This has to do with how emacs creates a backup of a file during > and after the editing process. It is not particular to links > symbolic or hard. The underlying filesystem will present a > symbolic and hard link as regular filestreams. I suspect > that what emacs does by default on mac os x is to have a different > backup policy than the version that generally ships on linux > systems (gnu vs lucid/X emacs: http://www.jwz.org/doc/emacs-timeline.html) > > You might want to examine the various backup policy variables > such as, backup-by-copying, backup-by-copying-when-linked and > backup-by-copying-when-mismatch > > - Colby > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Greg Novak wrote: > > > > Anyone care to chime in? > > > > Sure. My feeling is that links should like and behave like files at all > > times, all the while preserving their "linked-ness." The analogy with > > pointers is apt--I set a pointer to point to something, then I can look at > > and change that something through the pointer. What you describe would, > > I think, be like "read-only pointers"--you can look at things through them > > but don't touch. > > > > In any case I doubt that emacs is detecting hard links b/c I believe that > > this is rather difficult to do: it requires that you search the whole > > filesystem, comparing inode numbers. > > > > Ok, that's all from me on the subject, I promise. ;-) > > > > Greg > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > > > > > > > > I need to voice my perspective on this... links (hard or soft) are not > > > meant to be edited with a text editor. This is like trying to change > > > the value that a pointer points to in a programming language by > > > editing the pointer... all you can do is tell it to point to a > > > different place. My theory on what Andrew is experiencing is that > > > emacs recognizes that you're trying to edit a link and copies the > > > linked file to where you're trying to edit it... destroying the link > > > but allowing you to edit "a file" that is a copy of the link. > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > > > Graduate Student http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jhall > > > Astronomy Department > > > 601 Campbell Hall voice: (510) 643-8592 > > > University of California at Berkeley fax : (510) 642-3411 > > > Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 face : 753B Campbell > > > > > > "Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of > > > thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct." > > > --Justice Kennedy, Lawrence et al. v. Texas. > > > http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/02pdf/02-102.pdf > > > > > > From krabbe@ssl.berkeley.edu Thu Jul 3 03:16:02 2003 Received: from mail.ph1.uni-koeln.de (foobar@mail.ph1.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.50.1]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h63AFx422290; Thu, 3 Jul 2003 03:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kachru.ph1.uni-koeln.de ([134.95.46.215] helo=[134.95.46.37]) by mail.ph1.uni-koeln.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Y18A-0003DR-00; Thu, 03 Jul 2003 12:15:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: krabbe@mail.ph1.uni-koeln.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 12:16:18 +0200 To: Louis-Benoit Desroches From: Alfred Krabbe Subject: Re: Fink Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Length: 1184 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 110 Thanks for the hints regarding FINK. That pretty much answers my question. Alfred > > You'll have to install the Developer Tools package in order to use >> Fink. You can download Developer Tools from the mac website: >> > > http://developer.apple.com/tools/macosxtools.html >> >> I can't remember how I installed Tools, but I'm pretty sure I found the >> .pkg file on my hard drive. Can anyone verify this? > >I'm pretty sure that you only need the Developer Tools if you want to >compile the packages from source. If you get them as binaries then you >don't need the Developer Tools. > >I think I downloaded the Developer Tools from the Apple website (just go >there and do a search). It involved filling out a short survey of some >kind but in the end it's free and comes with a huge pile of compilers (C, >C++, f77, g77, f90, etc....) so I guess it's worth it. -- --------------------------------------------- Alfred Krabbe, 366 Le Conte Hall #7300 Tel.: (510) 642-8358 University of California Fax: (510) 643-8497 Berkeley, CA, 94720 mail: krabbe@ssl.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jul 14 14:30:19 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6ELUG426901 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6ELUED12881 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: printing question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 251 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 111 Hi, I have set it up so that I can print from my mac to the department printers, but I can't seem to make it duplex. Does anyone know how to fix this? I tried just typing the -o duplex option after the print command, but that didn't do it. Karin From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jul 21 09:10:08 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LGA6403885 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LGA5T20733 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:10:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: resusitating a dead battery Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1071 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 112 (it would be great for someone to try this on an old dead battery...) http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2003071622115360 A new way to resuscitate a dead battery In my most recent issue of the MacWorld Weekly e-mail newsletter, they reposted a hint that I hadn't yet seen on Mac OS X Hints. So this is a repost of a repost. :-) They reported that on the Laptop Batteries special report on MacInTouch, reader Rob Wyatt reported that after trying and failing in everything he could to resuscitate his dead battery (reseating the battery, zapping the PRAM, resetting the Power Manager), he finally found a magic bullet. He booted the iBook into Open Firmware by pressing Cmd-Opt-O-F at startup. He then typed reset-nvram, hit the Return key, and then typed reset-all. When his laptop restarted, the "battery was recognized and recognized and recharged perfectly. Subsequent readers confirmed that the technique revived batteries they too had given up for dead." [...] ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall From jimg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jul 21 16:17:33 2003 Received: from kerns.Berkeley.EDU (kerns [128.32.92.123]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LNHW425110 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:17:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Gibson Received: (from jimg@localhost) by kerns.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h6LNHW709960 for macusers; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200307212317.h6LNHW709960@kerns.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: battery trick data point Content-Length: 406 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 113 I have a G4 Powerbook about 1.5 years old. Recently the battery degraded rapidly and as of this morning would operate the thing for about 15 minutes starting at full charge. I tried the below technique and it now runs for 45 minutes. That helps. >> He booted the iBook into Open Firmware by pressing Cmd-Opt-O-F at startup. >> He then typed reset-nvram, hit the Return key, and then typed reset-all. From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jul 21 16:25:59 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LNPx425307; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LNPvV27122; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: Jim Gibson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: battery trick data point In-Reply-To: <200307212317.h6LNHW709960@kerns.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1069 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 114 > I have a G4 Powerbook about 1.5 years old. Recently the battery > degraded rapidly and as of this morning would operate the thing for > about 15 minutes starting at full charge. > > I tried the below technique and it now runs for 45 minutes. That > helps. There's a little more conversation going on at macosxhints about what to do with powerbooks... notably it restores the factory firmware (you'll have to upgrade to latest on your own) and you need to insert one other command in there... that is, after cmd-opt-O-F: reset-nvram set-defaults reset-all there's a couple other horror stories there too... yikes... I would be useless cellular material without my pb... http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2003071622115360 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://pobox.com/~joehall "...brought to you by the letter P, and several randomly chosen large prime numbers. ... True freedom of communication over the Internet." -- http://freenet.sourceforge.net/ From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jul 21 16:41:10 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LNf9425743 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6LNf7t27137 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:41:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 16:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@irk Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: another source... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 335 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 115 Here's something from Apple itself that people have had luck with: PowerBook and iBook: Resetting Power Management Unit (PMU) http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://pobox.com/~joehall From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 31 07:42:34 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6VEgXr03635 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6VEgVr04198 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:42:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:42:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: keynote and equations Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 555 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 116 Hi, I was getting frustrated about the lack of an equation editor in keynote today and upon looking around discovered this great program called Equation Service which allows you to typeset an equation right from latex commands and paste it back into your keynote presentation. It works like a charm. Everyone else may know about this already, but if you want to know more you can go to: http://keynotehq.com/tutorials/keynote_equations_1.1b1.pdf I think you can also paste the typeset equation virtually anywhere...but I haven't tried it yet. Karin From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jul 31 10:35:56 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6VHZtr08588; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h6VHZsu01194; Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:35:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:35:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: Karin Sandstrom cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: keynote and equations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1099 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 117 On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Karin Sandstrom wrote: > I was getting frustrated about the lack of an equation editor in keynote > today and upon looking around discovered this great program called > Equation Service which allows you to typeset an equation right from latex > commands and paste it back into your keynote presentation. It works like > a charm. Everyone else may know about this already, but if you want to > know more you can go to: > http://keynotehq.com/tutorials/keynote_equations_1.1b1.pdf Another, very similar, piece of software that I also use is http://evolve.lse.ac.uk/software/EquationEditor/ I can't decide whether I like it better than Equation Service though. One tip which I really like: Because the equations are PDF "images", you can't simply edit them to change them. Rather you have to re-enter the whole latex equation in one of these programs and have it typeset. A good way to simplify this is to keep the latex code for the equation in the "notes" area of the Keynote slide. That way it's easy to make the change and re-typeset just by copying/pasting. -saurabh From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Aug 11 10:19:11 2003 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h7BHJBo16957 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h7BHJBf12583 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 10:19:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@meso Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: all laptops using DHCP services (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2691 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 118 This (below) doesn't just apply to Macs... anyone with 802.11b... ITS will be rolling out increased wireless coverage in the coming year (regardless of budget shortfall... this is a HP grant). Joe ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:38:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelley McDonald To: joehall@pobox.com Subject: Re: all laptops using DHCP services Should send this to macusers...(if you haven't) Kelley >X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs >Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:26:45 -0700 (PDT) >From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall >X-X-Sender: jhall@meso >To: Kelley McDonald >Subject: Re: all laptops using DHCP services >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > >If people have Macs with wireless access, they can get connectivity in >the Engineering library or the Second floor of Evans... to use the >AirBears service all they have to do is be able to detect the network, >open a web browser window and enter their CalNet ID and passphrase... >not as quick as local DHCP but sufficient. > >Joe > >On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Kelley McDonald wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:53:20 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Kelley McDonald >> To: allusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >> Subject: all laptops using DHCP services >> >> the firewall/dhcp server is offline and will be offline >> for the near term. If you need to use your laptop, you >> will either >> >> 1) have to have had a fix IP address assigned to it >> (if you didn't have a line installed in your office, you >> probably don't have one) >> >> or >> >> 2) use the connection in 533 (a.k.a. bootes) >> >> I am not entirely sure when the firewall will be >> active again, it was one of the sources of the >> attacks over the weekend (and likely needs to be >> rebuilt from scratch). >> >> Kelley >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator >> Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Joseph Lorenzo Hall >Graduate Student http://pobox.com/~joehall > >Cyberspace cares more about the Star Wars Kid than the Public Domain. >http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?Ghyslain >http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?eldred > ------------------------------------------------------ Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From jhall@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Aug 19 08:32:54 2003 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h7JFWko22243 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h7JFWk020489 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall X-X-Sender: jhall@meso Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: pdfs with working links... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 643 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 119 Hey macusers... one thing I've appreciated with my mac is to be able to print to PDF... although I've been frustrated that links (external and internal to a document) wouldn't be preserved... and what if I wanted a series of html documents in one pdf? Here's my solution... posted to macosxhints.com: Create PDFs with working hyperlinks from HTML files http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20030818002506353 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://pobox.com/~joehall All the words were once neologisms -- Jorge Luis Borges (attributed) From bruce.grossan@ias.u-psud.fr Wed Aug 27 15:14:37 2003 Received: from mta1.lbl.gov (mta1.lbl.gov [128.3.41.24]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h7RMEao04885 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta1.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.lbl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7RMETcA014943 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ias.u-psud.fr (khongma-glx.dhcp.lbl.gov [128.3.32.247]) by mta1.lbl.gov (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7RMESno014939; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:14:27 -0700 Subject: IDL 5.6 segmentation fault not from 5.4 or 5.3 ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: Alex Kim , jilamoureux@lbl.gov To: idlusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: bruce Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 643 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 120 Hello All: I run IDL on various linux-like machines... and display it on my xserver which is xfree86 XDarwin running on my MAC OSX system. This is all relevant, believe it or not. With IDL 5.6 on the linux box, everytime I open a window of any kind (e.g. plot,[1,2,3]) IDL crashes with a segmentation fault. After much debugging, the guy next door said that he experienced a problem with 5.6, and I should try another version. Crazy, but...on the very same linux box, 5.3 produces no problems! (On another box, 5.4 also works.) Anybody know what is causing this? Workarounds? I can't stay at 5.3 forever. Thanks, -Bruce From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Sep 3 18:05:46 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8415jo12768 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 18:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 18:05:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: iSync mac and phone via bluetooth From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1939 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 121 I bought a USB bluetooth adapter for my powerbook hoping to upload my address book and iCal calendar into a Nokia 3650 bluetooth phone using iSync. The advantage is that it's easier to type information onto the computer compared to the phone. The same idea might apply to a bluetooth PDA. At first it didn't work, but then I found the following helpful instruction off of the web. I'm sending this out in case other people are having trouble. [p.s. you can get the Nokia 3650 for free from Circuit City if you sign up with T-Mobile] To Sync the Address Book: You have to create a new Port through which the phone and computer can communicate. Go to the Sharing panel on System Prefs, and go to the Firewall tab. Click new, and select Other for the port name, enter 3004 in Port Number, Range or Series and then enter your own description. Click OK and you are ready to go.... To Sync iCal: STEP 1 : make sure your Bluetooth connection is properly setup (if the Address Book syncs, you're okay) STEP 2 : find the file [harddisk] / Library / Application Support / SyncService / 501 / SymbianConduitDefaults.plist STEP 3 : duplicate this file and move the duplicate to a different location (i.e. a backup location) STEP 4 : open the original SymbianConduitDefaults.plist with the TextEdit application STEP 5 : edit the line kNSSyncDeviceUSeCalendars into kNSSyncDeviceUSeCalendars STEP 6 : save the edited file STEP 7 : open iSync and click on the Nokia3650 icon to open the stettings tab for the Nokia3650 STEP 8 : UNcheck the option "Contacts" ; now "Calendars" will still stay 'grayed out', but the option to select "All" or "Selected" will be available STEP 9 : set the "Calendars" stettings the way you want them to sync STEP 10 : (re)check the option "Contacts" STEP 11 : start syncing by clicking the "Sync Now" icon in the iSync panel From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Sep 8 10:48:53 2003 Received: from soleil.Berkeley.EDU (soleil [128.32.92.195]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h88Hmrg09660 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by soleil.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h88HmAX11197 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: soleil.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@soleil To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: white screen of death Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1046 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 122 I am getting frequent fatal error messages where a white dialog box appears on my screen telling me I must restart my computer in 4 different languages. There's no explaination about what causes the error or even if there is one specific error. The message just locks up the screen and forces me to shut down. This is very distressing since this sort of blue screen of death behavior is a major reason why I am using a Mac rather than a windows box. The only things I have done differently in the past couple of weeks was to install a memory upgrade and for the past week I have been in Italy and using a plug adaptor. I dont think the latter should be a problem since the Mac help site says you can use the power adaptor anywhere in the world with a simple plug (prong) adaptor. As for the memory, I purchased the module directly from Apple. Has anyone had a similar experience? Any advice? thanks _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Sep 8 10:53:42 2003 Received: from seyfert.Berkeley.EDU (seyfert [128.32.92.19]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h88Hrgg09910; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by seyfert.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h88Hr6700998; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seyfert.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@seyfert To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: white screen of death In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1618 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 123 The apple help line is incredibly efficient - I was having trouble with a drive and they just showed me how to fix it (you know, start up and hold down these 6 keys and then type 5 commands at the prompt). I highly reccomend. -Josh On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, John Johnson wrote: > I am getting frequent fatal error messages where a white dialog box > appears on my screen telling me I must restart my computer in 4 different > languages. There's no explaination about what causes the error or even if > there is one specific error. The message just locks up the screen and > forces me to shut down. This is very distressing since this sort of blue > screen of death behavior is a major reason why I am using a Mac rather > than a windows box. > > The only things I have done differently in the past couple of weeks was to > install a memory upgrade and for the past week I have been in Italy and > using a plug adaptor. I dont think the latter should be a problem since > the Mac help site says you can use the power adaptor anywhere in the world > with a simple plug (prong) adaptor. As for the memory, I purchased the > module directly from Apple. > > Has anyone had a similar experience? Any advice? > > thanks > > _____________________________________________________________________ > JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn > > > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 753b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 510 299 4427 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 643 8592 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Sep 8 10:59:26 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h88HxPg10133; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:01:10 -0700 Subject: Re: white screen of death Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers To: John Johnson From: Franck Marchis In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6DBD7FAC-E226-11D7-8AE8-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1349 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 124 John, I think the problem comes from the fact you went to Italy... it is not-allowed to use such fancy computer in Europe. :-) More seriously, I had the same problem when I plugged in my laptop my memory flash card with the PCMCIA port. don't know where it comes from but it seems there is an problem to access in additional memory with Mac OSX. I guess you should call the Mac help line. let me know what they told you (my problem can be easily resolved unplugging the extension card...) cheers F. On Monday, September 8, 2003, at 10:48 AM, John Johnson wrote: > > The only things I have done differently in the past couple of weeks > was to > install a memory upgrade and for the past week I have been in Italy and > using a plug adaptor. I dont think the latter should be a problem since > the Mac help site says you can use the power adaptor anywhere in the > world > with a simple plug (prong) adaptor. As for the memory, I purchased the > module directly from Apple. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From kvn-admin@kvn-berkeley.org Mon Sep 8 11:13:50 2003 Received: from absolut.menem.com (menem.com [64.49.222.215]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h88IDog10915 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from absolut.menem.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by absolut.menem.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h88ID5329743; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:13:05 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law10-f72.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.72]) by absolut.menem.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h88ICV329727 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:12:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:12:26 -0700 Received: from 69.3.90.85 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 Sep 2003 18:12:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [69.3.90.85] X-Originating-Email: [e_dukh@hotmail.com] From: "Elena Dukhovny" To: kvn@kvn-berkeley.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2003 18:12:26.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[C1EE4220:01C37634] X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-6.3, required 4, AWL, BAYES_10) Subject: [KVN] frazka v temu Sender: kvn-admin@kvn-berkeley.org Errors-To: kvn-admin@kvn-berkeley.org X-BeenThere: kvn@kvn-berkeley.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: KVN-Berkeley Team Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 11:12:25 -0700 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-7, required 4, AWL, BAYES_01, KNOWN_MAILING_LIST) Content-Length: 327 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 125 Na vypusk s veschami! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es _______________________________________________ KVN mailing list KVN@kvn-berkeley.org http://kvn-berkeley.org/mailman/listinfo/kvn From dreher@seti.org Mon Sep 8 12:56:52 2003 Received: from smtp.seti.org (smtp.seti.org [208.253.214.143]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h88Jupg15180; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seti.org ([146.88.10.239]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.seti.org (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h88Jv244008813; Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:56:46 -0600 Subject: Re: white screen of death Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: John Johnson , macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: Franck Marchis From: John Dreher In-Reply-To: <6DBD7FAC-E226-11D7-8AE8-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: <93C2A94C-E236-11D7-BC2A-000393C0DDA6@seti.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 150 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 126 WSoD = "kernel panic",that is Unix died. This condition is almost always due to a real hardware problem -- in your case very likely the new memory. From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Sep 10 07:27:16 2003 Received: from soleil.Berkeley.EDU (soleil [128.32.92.195]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8AERBg21799 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by soleil.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8AEQQH12889 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:26:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: soleil.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 07:26:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@soleil To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: no more WSoD! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 738 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 127 Macusers, Thanks so much for all of your advice and support through these trying times of sporatic system crashes. I finally found a screw driver small enough to fit the ridiculously small screws in the back of my 12" powerbook, removed the offending stick of RAM and I've been WSoD-free all day! Moral of the story: Even if you spend extra money and buy your memory upgrades directly from Apple.com, it's no guarantee that you wont get a faulty memory module. Has anyone else upgraded their RAM? Any problems? Did any of you use a 3rd party vendor rather than ordering from the Apple Store? _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Sep 10 11:27:59 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8AIRxg01398; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8AIRaU09498; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:27:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: no more WSoD! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 425 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 128 On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, John Johnson wrote: > Has anyone else upgraded their RAM? Any problems? Did any of you use a 3rd > party vendor rather than ordering from the Apple Store? I've used datamem.com several times with no problems (for an ibook, powerbook g4 and power mac g4), on recommendations from friends. I think your experience defintely confirms it -- there's just no reason to pay so much extra to Apple. -saurabh From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Sep 10 22:24:32 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (as3-4-28.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.14]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8B5OTg22941 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:24:31 -0700 Subject: RAM; Safari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Paul Kalas To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <389630D4-E418-11D7-AF94-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 462 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 129 RAM: I've used Crucial. Works fine. Also, they lowered the prices soon after I purchased, and if it's within 30-days, and you give them a call, then you get the difference back. Safari: How do you download (e.g. a pdf file from ADS) into a specific directory? All Safari seems to do is "download link" to the Desktop, and then I have to waste time filing it into the correct directory. I have a 3-button mouse and tried all combinations of buttons. From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Wed Sep 10 23:49:51 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8B6nog25989; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8B6npE04574; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:49:51 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:49:51 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Paul Kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: RAM; Safari In-Reply-To: <389630D4-E418-11D7-AF94-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1683 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 130 I think the only way to do this dynamically is by using drag and drop. You can pick up links and drop them onto folders. Another, even more combersome way, according to the Safari Help: 'When you download a file, Safari automatically saves it in the location specified in the General pane of Safari preferences. Safari is set up to download files to your Desktop, but you can change the location. To change the download location, choose Preferences from the Safari menu and click General. Choose Desktop or click Choose Other to select a different location. Because this changes your settings in Internet preferences, it affects other programs that use Internet preferences. You can choose to open certain "safe" files after they download. Safe files include documents such as movies, pictures, sounds, PDF and text documents, and disk images and other types of archives.' - Colby "proud new owner of a foot long powerbook g4" Kraybill --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Paul Kalas wrote: > RAM: I've used Crucial. Works fine. Also, they lowered the prices > soon > after I purchased, and if it's within 30-days, and you give them a > call, then you get the difference back. > > Safari: How do you download (e.g. a pdf file from ADS) into a specific > directory? All Safari seems to do is "download link" to the Desktop, > and > then I have to waste time filing it into the correct directory. I have > a 3-button > mouse and tried all combinations of buttons. > > > From youd@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Sep 11 12:11:45 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (solstice.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.24.27]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8BJAlg12220; Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:09:25 -0400 Subject: Re: RAM; Safari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: Paul Kalas , macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: James Colby Kraybill From: Andrew Youdin In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <75C75B6B-E48B-11D7-97A6-00039396E36A@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 2123 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 131 I think the best way to deal with pdf files is to use the freely available "pdf browser plugin": http://www.schubert-it.com/pluginpdf/ This opens pdf files within Safari and you can print or save wherever you like. Andrew "tucked away in a basement in Princeton" Youdin On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 02:49 AM, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > I think the only way to do this dynamically is by using drag and drop. > You can pick up links and drop them onto folders. > > Another, even more combersome way, according to the Safari Help: > > 'When you download a file, Safari automatically saves it in the > location > specified in the General pane of Safari preferences. Safari is set up > to > download files to your Desktop, but you can change the location. > > To change the download location, choose Preferences from the Safari > menu > and click General. Choose Desktop or click Choose Other to select a > different location. > > Because this changes your settings in Internet preferences, it affects > other programs that use Internet preferences. > > You can choose to open certain "safe" files after they download. Safe > files include documents such as movies, pictures, sounds, PDF and text > documents, and disk images and other types of archives.' > > - Colby "proud new owner of a foot long powerbook g4" Kraybill > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, Paul Kalas wrote: > >> RAM: I've used Crucial. Works fine. Also, they lowered the prices >> soon >> after I purchased, and if it's within 30-days, and you give them a >> call, then you get the difference back. >> >> Safari: How do you download (e.g. a pdf file from ADS) into a >> specific >> directory? All Safari seems to do is "download link" to the Desktop, >> and >> then I have to waste time filing it into the correct directory. I >> have >> a 3-button >> mouse and tried all combinations of buttons. >> >> >> > > From jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Sep 12 04:56:30 2003 Received: from graham.Berkeley.EDU (graham [128.32.92.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8CBuSg04526 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:56:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "james r. graham 649" Received: (from jrg@localhost) by graham.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h8CBuT900344 for macusers@astro; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 04:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200309121156.h8CBuT900344@graham.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Energy saver X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 480 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 132 My G4 power book has developed an annoying little peculiarity. The energy saver refuses to display the time to charge (when plugged in) or the battery time remaining on the menu bar---it always displays "Calculating..." If I open the energy saver from preferences the battery time is listed as an absurd number 12 hours 29 minutes. The percentage does seem to be displayed correctly. Any suggestions? I've tried dumb things---restart, remove battery... Thanks - - James From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Sep 12 05:56:21 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (as3-4-90.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.76]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8CCuIg05073; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 05:56:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Energy saver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: "james r. graham 649" From: Paul Kalas In-Reply-To: <200309121156.h8CBuT900344@graham.Berkeley.EDU> Message-Id: <82E10E0C-E520-11D7-B683-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 743 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 133 You can try resetting the PMU - Power Management Unit. The apple support web page has step-by-step information. But if you have Apple Care, you can just call them. On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 04:56 AM, james r. graham 649 wrote: > My G4 power book has developed an annoying little > peculiarity. The energy saver refuses to display the > time to charge (when plugged in) or the battery time remaining on the > menu bar---it > always displays "Calculating..." If I open the energy saver from > preferences > the battery time is listed as an absurd number 12 hours 29 minutes. The > percentage does seem to be displayed correctly. > > Any suggestions? I've tried dumb things---restart, remove battery... > > Thanks - > > - James > From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Sep 19 01:09:51 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8J89nU19378 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 01:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8J89Lx13066 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2003 01:09:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 01:09:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: [macusers] virtual desktops in OS X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 597 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 134 Normally I'm loathe to be a corporate shill, but this software is too good. Want virtual desktops in OS X? Want focus-follows-mouse in all your windows (not just X)? This does it (and probably lots more, I've only been using it for 10 minutes and was blown away and felt the need to share): http://www.codetek.com/php/virtual.php There is a free download version -- it limits you to 2 virtual desktops (but looks otherwise full-featured). The unrestricted version costs $30. If you play around with it, let me know how well it works (or doesn't) for you, before I send them my $30. -saurabh From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Sep 30 12:32:14 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8UJWDN28712 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8UJVdk00495 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:31:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: X problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 545 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 135 When I unplug the ethernet cable from my powerbook, I lose my ability to display things in X. Here's an example error message: ~ > gv figure1.ps & Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified gv: Unable to open the display. ~ > Any X windows I have open stay open, but I can't opan any additional windows after unplugging the cable. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks... _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From dreher@seti.org Tue Sep 30 13:16:11 2003 Received: from smtp.seti.org (smtp.seti.org [208.253.214.143]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8UKGAN00266; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seti.org (adsl-67-125-226-189.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.125.226.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.seti.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8UKGQfu024961; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:16:03 -0700 Subject: Re: X problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: John Johnson From: John Dreher In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 146 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 136 In a similar vein: I just installed "gv" using fink. When I invoke it from the command line I get the error: > gv: Unable to open the display. From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Tue Sep 30 13:50:31 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8UKoUN01878; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8UKoUL25905; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:50:30 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:50:30 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: John Dreher cc: John Johnson , Subject: Re: X problem (xhost dance) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1006 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 137 I don't have my footlong with me to investigate but... This sounds like the OS is trying to be "smart" when you change your network connection (in this case, remove). It is probably commanding the equivilent of an "xhost -" to insure that your display is not vulnerable to hacking. Tactical fix: When you see the error, open a terminal window and type: % xhost +localhost This will not permanently fix it, but will let you open windows from any other xterm open on the display. - Colby P.S. Next time, don't have the department picnic on the same weekend as the Folsom St. Fair. :> --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, John Dreher wrote: > In a similar vein: I just installed "gv" using fink. When > I invoke it from the command line I get the error: > > > gv: Unable to open the display. > From novak@ucolick.org Tue Sep 30 14:00:58 2003 Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (dionysus.ucolick.org [128.114.22.17]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8UL0vN02330; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8UKjJVE025702; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:45:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (novak@localhost) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h8UKjJr0025698; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:45:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: dionysus.ucolick.org: novak owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:45:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Novak To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: X problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1426 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 138 I believe that this is because the hostname of your computer is changing. X still has a hold of the old hostname and doesn't think that you're allowed to open windows b/c the request is coming from a different host name. Could be happening because your laptop DHCP's wirelessly and then gets a different hostname, or because you have a "default" set and when you lose the ethernet connection your comptuer reverts to the default. The hack solution is to restart X. It'll see the new hostname and realize that you're permitted to pop windows on the display. The non-hack-but-slightly-flimsy solution is to turn X's hostname verification off. Don't have my laptop in front of me, but I think that there's an option to do this in the "preferences" pane in Apple's X11 implementation. Greg On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, John Johnson wrote: > When I unplug the ethernet cable from my powerbook, I lose my ability to > display things in X. Here's an example error message: > > ~ > gv figure1.ps & > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > gv: Unable to open the display. > ~ > > > Any X windows I have open stay open, but I can't opan any additional > windows after unplugging the cable. Any ideas how to fix this? > > Thanks... > _____________________________________________________________________ > JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn > > > From novak@ucolick.org Tue Sep 30 14:03:41 2003 Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (dionysus.ucolick.org [128.114.22.17]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8UL3eN02417 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8UKm3VE025709 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:48:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (novak@localhost) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h8UKm2Mc025705 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:48:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: dionysus.ucolick.org: novak owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:48:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Novak To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: X problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 538 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 139 On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, John Dreher wrote: > In a similar vein: I just installed "gv" using fink. When > I invoke it from the command line I get the error: > > > gv: Unable to open the display. This is also an unsolved problem for me. I get a dialog box saying: "Display x11alpha not supported." The gv package container gave me the "useful" advice that gv is "unhappy with my X11 installation" while building, but we never got beyond that. My solution so far.... is to turn everything into PDF and look at it in Acrobat. Greg From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Tue Sep 30 14:18:45 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8ULIiN03097; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8ULIib26001; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:18:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:18:44 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Greg Novak cc: John Johnson , Subject: Re: X problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2030 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 140 Hmm, I really hope it doesn't do that (change the actual hostname) of the machine. That could lead to all sorts of other problems... I know there's an option to have the Linux DHCP client do that, but I believe it's off by default for the reasons listed below and many more. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Greg Novak wrote: > I believe that this is because the hostname of your computer is changing. > X still has a hold of the old hostname and doesn't think that you're > allowed to open windows b/c the request is coming from a different host > name. Could be happening because your laptop DHCP's wirelessly and then > gets a different hostname, or because you have a "default" set and when > you lose the ethernet connection your comptuer reverts to the default. > > The hack solution is to restart X. It'll see the new hostname and realize > that you're permitted to pop windows on the display. > > The non-hack-but-slightly-flimsy solution is to turn X's hostname > verification off. Don't have my laptop in front of me, but I think that > there's an option to do this in the "preferences" pane in Apple's X11 > implementation. > > Greg > > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, John Johnson wrote: > > > When I unplug the ethernet cable from my powerbook, I lose my ability to > > display things in X. Here's an example error message: > > > > ~ > gv figure1.ps & > > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > gv: Unable to open the display. > > ~ > > > > > Any X windows I have open stay open, but I can't opan any additional > > windows after unplugging the cable. Any ideas how to fix this? > > > > Thanks... > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn > > > > > > > > From dreher@seti.org Tue Sep 30 14:19:06 2003 Received: from smtp.seti.org (smtp.seti.org [208.253.214.143]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h8ULJ5N03158 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seti.org (adsl-67-125-226-189.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [67.125.226.189]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.seti.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h8ULJLfu027001; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:18:59 -0700 Subject: Re: X problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: Greg Novak From: John Dreher In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 737 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 141 On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 01:48 PM, Greg Novak wrote: > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, John Dreher wrote: > >> In a similar vein: I just installed "gv" using fink. When >> I invoke it from the command line I get the error: >> >>> gv: Unable to open the display. > > This is also an unsolved problem for me. I get a dialog box saying: > "Display x11alpha not supported." The gv package container gave me the > "useful" advice that gv is "unhappy with my X11 installation" while > building, but we never got beyond that. My solution so far.... is to > turn > everything into PDF and look at it in Acrobat. > Another odd thing -- gnuplot works fine and can open an aquaterm with no problem. So X must be working OK, just not 'gv'. From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Sep 30 17:28:25 2003 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h910SON13804 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h910SOHh022078 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h910SNWN023734 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h910SNo9023731 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:28:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: X problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1102 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 142 Hi Macusers... I change my internet connection (from Ethernet to WiFi [AirBears, Home, South Hall]) constantly. I experienced exactly what you guys are talking about... then I got in the habit of quiting X every time I move from one connection (network profile) to the next. This has worked... also, there is a pane in the preferences of Apple's X11 called 'Security' that has a check box that says: Authenticate Connections "Launching X11 will create Xauthority access-control keys. If the system's IP address changes, these keys become invalid which may prevent X11 applications from launching." That sounds like the meat and potatoes... try unchecking that. best, Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://pobox.com/~joehall "When the government uses a product [M$] whose monopoly position undermines its security, antitrust becomes a national security issue." --Daniel Geer, http://www.ccianet.org/papers/cyberinsecurity.pdf EFF petition against RIAA mass litigation: http://tinyurl.com/nlib From fischer@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:09:48 2003 Received: from serpens.Berkeley.EDU (serpens [128.32.92.169]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h91K9lN14469 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fischer@localhost) by serpens.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h91K8YZ21865 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Fischer To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: color mapping Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 218 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 143 Hello - I need to make idl plots on my mac but I seem to only get red, white and black as the possible colors for my plots. Does anyone know a workaround to make color idl plots on a mac? thanks! debra fischer From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Oct 1 13:16:14 2003 Received: from seyfert.Berkeley.EDU (seyfert [128.32.92.19]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h91KGCN14775; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by seyfert.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h91KFTt01027; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:15:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seyfert.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 13:15:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@seyfert To: Debra Fischer cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: color mapping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 662 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 144 Heya, I set things to 'true' colors and then type device, decomposed = 0 and then loadct, 3 or whatever. Cheers, -Josh On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Debra Fischer wrote: > > > Hello - > > I need to make idl plots on my mac but I seem to only > get red, white and black as the possible colors for > my plots. Does anyone know a workaround to make color > idl plots on a mac? > > thanks! > > debra fischer > > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 753b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 510 299 4427 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 643 8592 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu Oct 2 12:16:31 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h92JGUN19171 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (colby@localhost) by celestial.berkeley.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h92JGUF31420 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:16:30 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: celestial.berkeley.edu: colby owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: James Colby Kraybill To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: X winders and a way through, over and under the problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 607 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 145 In regards to switching networks, here's a solution: You can start the X server with the options: -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp This will force the server to use UNIX domain sockets, which are communication channels local to the machine. Then, tunnel all of your X traffic via ssh. et voila, no more xauthority problemos, along with making your machine slightly more secure... - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Oct 9 12:52:21 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h99JqKN26505 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:54:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--624784909 Subject: convert into UNIX ASCII file - if you want to install IDL 6.0 license From: Franck Marchis To: macusers Message-Id: <5606BC98-FA92-11D7-82F9-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 2748 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 146 --Apple-Mail-6--624784909 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hello, I have spent two hours on a extremely stupid computer problem (like always with computer), so in case you have to face the same problem here a way to convert a classical ASCII file into UNIX ascii file. For what it is useful, you may ask? Here an example: If you installed the new IDL 6.0 on your laptop, you have to copy the license provided on the web site of RSINC. if you cut&paste it on BBedit and save it in /usr/local/rsi/license/. you will see that the license is not recognize. I finally notice (opening the file with vi) that it contains the weirdo ^M instead of the [RETURN] and that's the reason the license was not recognized. To solve this problem, open your document with BBedit. click on the third icon starting from the right. select UNIX and save it. then copy the file in /usr/local/rsi/license/ hopefully it will work. Cheers Franck M. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- --Apple-Mail-6--624784909 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have spent two hours on a extremely stupid computer problem (like always with computer), so in case you have to face the same problem here a way to convert a classical ASCII file into UNIX ascii file. For what it is useful, you may ask? Here an example: If you installed the new IDL 6.0 on your laptop, you have to copy the license provided on the web site of RSINC. if you cut&paste it on BBedit and save it in /usr/local/rsi/license/. you will see that the license is not recognize. I finally notice (opening the file with vi) that it contains the weirdo ^M instead of the [RETURN] and that's the reason the license was not recognized. To solve this problem, open your document with BBedit. click on the third icon starting from the right. select UNIX and save it. then copy the file in /usr/local/rsi/license/ hopefully it will work. Cheers Franck M. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- --Apple-Mail-6--624784909-- From DSMadgwick@lbl.gov Thu Oct 9 13:16:05 2003 Received: from mta1.lbl.gov (mta1.lbl.gov [128.3.41.24]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h99KG4N27390; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta1.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.lbl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99KFvSq006493; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lbl.gov (0-a-95-99-b5-24.dhcp.lbl.gov [128.3.35.30]) by mta1.lbl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99KFvuj006449; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:16:25 -0700 Subject: Re: convert into UNIX ASCII file - if you want to install IDL 6.0 license Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--623444240 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: Franck Marchis From: Darren Madgwick In-Reply-To: <5606BC98-FA92-11D7-82F9-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: <75209FCA-FA95-11D7-8659-000A9599B524@lbl.gov> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 3345 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 147 --Apple-Mail-2--623444240 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Another option, if you prefer using the command line: perl -pi -e 's/\r/\n/g' filename - convert from Mac to Unix perl -pi -e 's/\n/\r/g' filename - convert from Unix to Mac DSM On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 12:54 PM, Franck Marchis wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent two hours on a extremely stupid computer problem (like > always with computer), so in case you have to face the same problem > here a way to convert a classical ASCII file into UNIX ascii file. > > For what it is useful, you may ask? > Here an example: If you installed the new IDL 6.0 on your laptop, you > have to copy the license provided on the web site of RSINC. > if you cut&paste it on BBedit and save it in /usr/local/rsi/license/. > you will see that the license is not recognize. > I finally notice (opening the file with vi) that it contains the > weirdo ^M instead of the [RETURN] and that's the reason the license > was not recognized. > > To solve this problem, open your document with BBedit. click on the > third icon starting from the right. select UNIX and save it. > then copy the file in /usr/local/rsi/license/ > hopefully it will work. > > Cheers > Franck M. > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- --Apple-Mail-2--623444240 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Another option, if you prefer using the command line: perl -pi -e 's/\r/\n/g' filename - convert from Mac to Unix perl -pi -e 's/\n/\r/g' filename - convert from Unix to Mac DSM On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 12:54 PM, Franck Marchis wrote: Hello, I have spent two hours on a extremely stupid computer problem (like always with computer), so in case you have to face the same problem here a way to convert a classical ASCII file into UNIX ascii file. For what it is useful, you may ask? Here an example: If you installed the new IDL 6.0 on your laptop, you have to copy the license provided on the web site of RSINC. if you cut&paste it on BBedit and save it in /usr/local/rsi/license/. you will see that the license is not recognize. I finally notice (opening the file with vi) that it contains the weirdo ^M instead of the [RETURN] and that's the reason the license was not recognized. To solve this problem, open your document with BBedit. click on the third icon starting from the right. select UNIX and save it. then copy the file in /usr/local/rsi/license/ hopefully it will work. Cheers Franck M. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- --Apple-Mail-2--623444240-- From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Oct 9 16:23:14 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h99NNDN05588 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 16:24:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Shared musix From: Franck Marchis To: macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 649 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 148 Not very important point... As "Sliggity;s Tiggities" (who is that?) I share my music on our network with iTunes. I was wondering if some of you can listen to it, since I never managed to access to S.T. music tracks (Loading ... for ever). Does someone know the reason? cheers F. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Thu Oct 9 15:00:39 2003 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h99M0cN01258 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99M0cRb020099 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h99M0ctr011036 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h99M0cDf011033 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: convert into UNIX ASCII file - if you want to install IDL 6.0 license In-Reply-To: <5606BC98-FA92-11D7-82F9-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2108 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 149 You can also do this in Emacs... let me know if anyone's interested. Joe On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Franck Marchis wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:54:04 -0700 > From: Franck Marchis > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: convert into UNIX ASCII file - if you want to install IDL 6.0 > license > > Hello, > > I have spent two hours on a extremely stupid computer problem (like > always with computer), so in case you have to face the same problem > here a way to convert a classical ASCII file into UNIX ascii file. > > For what it is useful, you may ask? > Here an example: If you installed the new IDL 6.0 on your laptop, you > have to copy the license provided on the web site of RSINC. > if you cut&paste it on BBedit and save it in /usr/local/rsi/license/. > you will see that the license is not recognize. > I finally notice (opening the file with vi) that it contains the weirdo > ^M instead of the [RETURN] and that's the reason the license was not > recognized. > > To solve this problem, open your document with BBedit. click on the > third icon starting from the right. select UNIX and save it. > then copy the file in /usr/local/rsi/license/ > hopefully it will work. > > Cheers > Franck M. > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Graduate Student http://pobox.com/~joehall "To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it." --Scott Granneman, http://tinyurl.com/pwa7 [theregister.co.uk] "Sacramento is simply the biggest Hummer he can buy." --Leon Wieseltier (as quoted by Maureen Dowd, "Win One for the Groper", http://tinyurl.com/psfk [nytimes.com]) From novak@ucolick.org Thu Oct 9 15:20:05 2003 Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (dionysus.ucolick.org [128.114.22.17]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h99MK4N02063; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h99MJxVE005754; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:19:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (novak@localhost) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h99MJxYh005750; Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:19:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: dionysus.ucolick.org: novak owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:19:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Novak To: Franck Marchis cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: convert into UNIX ASCII file - if you want to install IDL 6.0 license In-Reply-To: <5606BC98-FA92-11D7-82F9-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1920995606-393065930-1065737999=:5738" Content-Length: 3597 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 150 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1920995606-393065930-1065737999=:5738 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alternatively you can use the attached perl script (written by yours truly) to convert between cr/lf conventions on dos, windows, and unix. Run it without arguments to get a usage message, but briefly you'd do: rets u m file.txt or rets u m < file.txt to convert file.txt from the unix cr/lf convention to the mac cr/lf convention. The name is supposed to be short for "returns" which works for me but you can use whatever you want. Also, "d" indicates the DOS/Windows cr/lf convention. Note that this is especially gratifying to use within emacs. You highlight a region, type: M-x shell-command-on-region rets m u and voila, your highlighted text will show up in a new buffer formatted as desired... Greg On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Franck Marchis wrote: > Hello, > > I have spent two hours on a extremely stupid computer problem (like > always with computer), so in case you have to face the same problem > here a way to convert a classical ASCII file into UNIX ascii file. > > For what it is useful, you may ask? > Here an example: If you installed the new IDL 6.0 on your laptop, you > have to copy the license provided on the web site of RSINC. > if you cut&paste it on BBedit and save it in /usr/local/rsi/license/. > you will see that the license is not recognize. > I finally notice (opening the file with vi) that it contains the weirdo > ^M instead of the [RETURN] and that's the reason the license was not > recognized. > > To solve this problem, open your document with BBedit. click on the > third icon starting from the right. select UNIX and save it. > then copy the file in /usr/local/rsi/license/ > hopefully it will work. > > Cheers > Franck M. > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- --1920995606-393065930-1065737999=:5738 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=rets Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=rets IyEvdXNyL2Jpbi9wZXJsIC13IC1pLm9yaWcNCg0KJGZyb20gPSBzaGlmdDsN CiR0byA9IHNoaWZ0Ow0KDQppZiAoIWRlZmluZWQoJGZyb20pIHx8ICFkZWZp bmVkKCR0bykpIHsNCiAgdXNhZ2UoKTsNCn0NCmlmICgkZnJvbSBlcSAibSIp IHsNCiAgJG91dD0iXHIiOw0KfQ0KZWxzaWYgKCRmcm9tIGVxICJ1Iikgew0K ICAkb3V0PSJcbiI7DQp9DQplbHNpZiAoJGZyb20gZXEgImQiKSB7DQogICRv dXQ9IltcclxuXXsyfSI7DQp9DQplbHNlIHsNCiAgdXNhZ2UoKTsNCn0NCg0K aWYgKCR0byBlcSAibSIpIHsNCiAgJGluPSJcciI7DQp9DQplbHNpZiAoJHRv IGVxICJ1Iikgew0KICAkaW49IlxuIjsNCn0NCmVsc2lmICgkdG8gZXEgImQi KSB7DQogICRpbj0iXHJcbiI7DQp9DQplbHNlIHsNCiAgdXNhZ2UoKTsNCn0N Cg0Kd2hpbGUoPD4pIHsNCglzLyRvdXQvJGluL2c7DQoJcHJpbnQ7DQp9DQoN CnN1YiB1c2FnZSB7DQogIHByaW50ICJDb252ZXJ0IGNhcnJpYWdlIHJldHVy bnMvbGluZSBmZWVkcyBiZXR3ZWVuIERPUywgVW5peCwgYW5kIE1hYy5cbiI7 DQogIHByaW50ICJVc2FnZTogcmV0cyA8ZnJvbT4gPHRvPiBbZmlsZTFdIFtm aWxlMl0gLi4uIFxuIjsNCiAgcHJpbnQgIndoZXJlIDxmcm9tPiBhbmQgPHRv PiBhcmUgbSwgdSwgb3IgZCBmb3IgbWFjLCBkb3MsIG9yIHVuaXhcbiIuDQog IGRpZTsNCn0NCg== --1920995606-393065930-1065737999=:5738-- From kelley@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Oct 16 11:19:26 2003 Received: from beast (beast [128.32.92.126]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id h9GIIkN06418; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200310161818.h9GIIkN06418@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:18:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelley McDonald Reply-To: Kelley McDonald Subject: Simple web archive of emails to mailing lists To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, windowsusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, linuxusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: t48nGvDQIaPvZvyMYB/Cjw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.5 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 763 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 151 I have constructed a VERY simple archive of the emails collected, most of them in any event, that have been sent to the macusers, windowsusers, and linuxusers mailing lists. You can view these by directing your web browser to: http://astro.berkeley.edu/computing/archives/ Click on the respective link. It is simple, just a flat file of all the emails, so you will have to use the Find In This Page function of the browser to seek for answers to your problems. At some point, it will be revamped to make it more user friendly. Kelley ------------------------------------------------------ Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Oct 21 13:20:43 2003 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9LKKgN12668; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9LKJvU19294; Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 13:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: James Colby Kraybill cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: X winders and a way through, over and under the problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 436 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 152 On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > In regards to switching networks, here's a solution: > > You can start the X server with the options: > > -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp > Colby, I tried this, but I don't think I put the options in the right place. I tried the following line in my .xinitrc file: exec /sw/bin/gnome-session-real -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp Is the X server stared somewhere else? Thanks JohnJohn From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Oct 30 13:18:38 2003 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id h9ULIbN01512 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:18:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200310302118.h9ULIbN01512@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:17:58 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: TeXShop & astronat To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: jx6WTxx9/xW923MGEJRm7w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 652 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 153 Hi, This is for people who want to make astronat native to TeXShop. It took me a while to make astronat work with TeXShop without copying files everywhere so I think it might be useful. TeXShop is a very good freeware to edit and compile LaTeX on Mac but it doesn't come with astronat (not a surprise). All you need to do is to put astronat in the dirctory ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/. If you are using aastex502, it can be placed under ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/. The TeXShop help also mentions that personal .sty files can be placed under ~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/misc/. Most likely you will have to make the paths yourself. Vivien From yoram@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Oct 27 11:03:11 2003 Received: from [192.168.1.226] (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9RJ3AN19001; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:03:10 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-mailer: Eudora Pro 5.2.1 Macintosh Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:03:08 -0800 To: Franck Marchis From: Yoram Subject: Re: Mail on Mac Cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1144841107==_ma============" Content-Length: 7039 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 154 --============_-1144841107==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Thanks everyone. Based on Franck's response, this is now probably unnecessary, but there is a website that shows you how to set up Mail through an ssh tunnel: http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/03/19/secure_mail.html?page=2 I tried it and it works. I hope Kelley doesn't mind if 5min automatic access is enabled through the tunnel. Also, in answer to Josh's question: you can configure Mail not to download all your mail whenever you read it. Yoram (This is my last Eudora email!) At 9:42 AM -0800 10/27/03, Franck Marchis wrote: >Yoram, > >I had a long email exchange with Kelley about the access to POP (I >received the same email than you). He finally agreed to let me use >POP if I disable the 5min automatic access and access to it only >sometimes when I received an email. >APOP is not supported by iMail, only by Eudora. >There are several version of encrypted access through POP (Using >SSl, Kuporos etc...) but Kelley does not with to support it for the >moment. If a lot of us access to our email by POP we may then ask >Kelley to support them (SSL is not that difficult to be used and it >is compatible with a lot of mailers on different OS) > >Cheers >Franck M. > > >On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 20:30 America/Los_Angeles, Paul Kalas wrote: > >>From what I understand, Kelley doesn't want you using POP to check mail >>every five minutes (it's one of the settings you choose in your preferences). >>For example, I use "Mail" with POP, but I only check mail manually. >> >>Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 MB mail >>message. Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas >>file as small as possible for Mail to work. >> >>If Panther has improved Mail, then that's a good reason to get it. >> >> >> >>On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:31 PM, Yoram wrote: >> >>> >>>To macusers: >>> >>>Does anyone use OS X "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from >>>astron? If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives? >>> >>>I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is >>>insecure (passwords are not encrypted). The only alternative he >>>gave me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora. >>> >>>On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP. So >>>I guess the policy has changed. But is there any way to use >>>IMAP, or ssh? Or does Panther Mail support APOP? >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Yoram >>> >> >> >> >--- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- >--- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- --============_-1144841107==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Mail on Mac

Thanks everyone.

Based on Franck's response, this is now probably unnecessary, but there is a website that shows you how to set up Mail through an ssh tunnel:
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002/03/19/secure_mail.html?page=2
I tried it and it works. 
I hope Kelley doesn't mind if 5min automatic access is enabled through the tunnel.

Also, in answer to Josh's question:  you can configure Mail not to download all your mail whenever you read it.

Yoram
(This is my last Eudora email!)

 

At 9:42 AM -0800 10/27/03, Franck Marchis wrote:
Yoram,

I had a long email exchange with Kelley about the access to POP (I received the same email than you). He finally agreed to let me use POP if I disable the 5min automatic access and access to it only sometimes when I received an email.
APOP is not supported by iMail, only by Eudora.
There are several version of encrypted access through POP (Using SSl, Kuporos etc...) but Kelley does not with to support it for the moment. If a lot of us access to our email by POP we may then ask Kelley to support them (SSL is not that difficult to be used and it is compatible with a lot of mailers on different OS)

Cheers
Franck M.


On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 20:30 America/Los_Angeles, Paul Kalas wrote:
From what I understand, Kelley doesn't want you using POP to check mail
every five minutes (it's one of the settings you choose in your preferences).
For example, I use "Mail" with POP, but I only check mail manually.

Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 MB mail
message.  Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas
file as small as possible for Mail to work.

If Panther has improved Mail, then that's a good reason to get it.



On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:31  PM, Yoram wrote:

To macusers:

Does anyone use OS X  "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from astron?  If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives?

I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is insecure (passwords are not encrypted).   The only alternative he gave me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora.

On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP.  So I guess the policy has changed.   But is there any way to use IMAP, or ssh?  Or does Panther Mail support APOP?



Thanks,
Yoram



--- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 --
     Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California     --
     Department of Astronomy                    Fax: +1 510 642 3411 --
     601 Campbell Hall                  fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu --
--- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA -  http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis  --

--============_-1144841107==_ma============-- From yoram@astron.Berkeley.EDU Sat Oct 25 16:31:32 2003 Received: from [192.168.1.226] (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9PNVVN11434 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-mailer: Eudora Pro 5.2.1 Macintosh Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:31:31 -0700 To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU From: Yoram Subject: Mail on Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Length: 529 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 155 To macusers: Does anyone use OS X "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from astron? If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives? I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is insecure (passwords are not encrypted). The only alternative he gave me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora. On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP. So I guess the policy has changed. But is there any way to use IMAP, or ssh? Or does Panther Mail support APOP? Thanks, Yoram From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Sun Oct 26 20:29:55 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (as3-4-147.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9R4TrN01414; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:29:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:30:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Mail on Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU To: Yoram From: Paul Kalas In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <419E21F7-0836-11D8-8B77-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1089 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 156 From what I understand, Kelley doesn't want you using POP to check mail every five minutes (it's one of the settings you choose in your preferences). For example, I use "Mail" with POP, but I only check mail manually. Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 MB mail message. Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas file as small as possible for Mail to work. If Panther has improved Mail, then that's a good reason to get it. On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:31 PM, Yoram wrote: > > To macusers: > > Does anyone use OS X "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from astron? > If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives? > > I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is > insecure (passwords are not encrypted). The only alternative he gave > me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora. > > On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP. So I > guess the policy has changed. But is there any way to use IMAP, or > ssh? Or does Panther Mail support APOP? > > > > Thanks, > Yoram > From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Oct 27 09:49:47 2003 Received: from seyfert.Berkeley.EDU (seyfert [128.32.92.19]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9RHnkN15006 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by seyfert.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9RHmi003668 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:48:44 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: seyfert.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:48:44 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@seyfert To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mail on Mac In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 3510 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 157 Folks, I too would be interested in using 'Mail', particularly with the new panther stuff. One question: How does Mail interact with pine? I used to use Eudora and pine, depending upon where I was as an undergrad, but sometimes my Eudora would try to redownload all of my messages as if they were new. Is this just a Eudora quirk? If there are enough people interested, maybe we should 'go public' and get it working smoothly for all of us, as Franck mentioned. Also, I'd like to 'give a shout out' to panther. I tried it out in the apple store, and bought a copy (which I have yet to install). It is absolutely fabulous. Particularly Expose', which will be an immense time-saver. If you are on the fence, get off it - embedded X11 (now it really is the sexiest Xwindows), Expose', Xcode (for the hard core), fast user switching; it's just chock full. Towing the com pany line, -Josh On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Franck Marchis wrote: > Yoram, > > I had a long email exchange with Kelley about the access to POP (I > received the same email than you). He finally agreed to let me use POP > if I disable the 5min automatic access and access to it only sometimes > when I received an email. > APOP is not supported by iMail, only by Eudora. > There are several version of encrypted access through POP (Using SSl, > Kuporos etc...) but Kelley does not with to support it for the moment. > If a lot of us access to our email by POP we may then ask Kelley to > support them (SSL is not that difficult to be used and it is compatible > with a lot of mailers on different OS) > > Cheers > Franck M. > > > On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 20:30 America/Los_Angeles, Paul Kalas wrote: > > > From what I understand, Kelley doesn't want you using POP to check mail > > every five minutes (it's one of the settings you choose in your > > preferences). > > For example, I use "Mail" with POP, but I only check mail manually. > > > > Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 > > MB mail > > message. Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas > > file as small as possible for Mail to work. > > > > If Panther has improved Mail, then that's a good reason to get it. > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:31 PM, Yoram wrote: > > > >> > >> To macusers: > >> > >> Does anyone use OS X "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from > >> astron? If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives? > >> > >> I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is > >> insecure (passwords are not encrypted). The only alternative he > >> gave me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora. > >> > >> On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP. So I > >> guess the policy has changed. But is there any way to use IMAP, or > >> ssh? Or does Panther Mail support APOP? > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Yoram > >> > > > > > > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 753b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 510 299 4427 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 643 8592 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From dreher@seti.org Mon Oct 27 08:28:36 2003 Received: from smtp.seti.org (smtp.seti.org [208.253.214.143]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9RGSZN11481; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from seti.org (adsl-63-204-132-236.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.204.132.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.seti.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9RGSuOx020886; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:28:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:28:46 -0800 Subject: Re: Mail on Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: Yoram , macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU To: Paul Kalas From: John Dreher In-Reply-To: <419E21F7-0836-11D8-8B77-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 786 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 158 On Sunday, October 26, 2003, at 08:30 PM, Paul Kalas wrote: > Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 > MB mail > message. Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas > file as small as possible for Mail to work. I'm not positive, but I think that it may just take a VERY long time to finish checking your mail when you have a large mail file on the host. This seems to be a peculiarity of the host mail software (I think it reads the entire file looking for mail headers, including the (non-text) attachements) rather than of the client you are using to read your mail. You should be able to connect to the mail server using an SSL connection (according to Mail help) but I'm not sure if that helps with respect to the password visibility problem. From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Oct 27 09:40:29 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9RHeSN14576; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:40:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:42:15 -0800 Subject: Re: Mail on Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU To: Yoram From: Franck Marchis In-Reply-To: <419E21F7-0836-11D8-8B77-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 2214 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 159 Yoram, I had a long email exchange with Kelley about the access to POP (I received the same email than you). He finally agreed to let me use POP if I disable the 5min automatic access and access to it only sometimes when I received an email. APOP is not supported by iMail, only by Eudora. There are several version of encrypted access through POP (Using SSl, Kuporos etc...) but Kelley does not with to support it for the moment. If a lot of us access to our email by POP we may then ask Kelley to support them (SSL is not that difficult to be used and it is compatible with a lot of mailers on different OS) Cheers Franck M. On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 20:30 America/Los_Angeles, Paul Kalas wrote: > From what I understand, Kelley doesn't want you using POP to check mail > every five minutes (it's one of the settings you choose in your > preferences). > For example, I use "Mail" with POP, but I only check mail manually. > > Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 > MB mail > message. Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas > file as small as possible for Mail to work. > > If Panther has improved Mail, then that's a good reason to get it. > > > > On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:31 PM, Yoram wrote: > >> >> To macusers: >> >> Does anyone use OS X "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from >> astron? If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives? >> >> I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is >> insecure (passwords are not encrypted). The only alternative he >> gave me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora. >> >> On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP. So I >> guess the policy has changed. But is there any way to use IMAP, or >> ssh? Or does Panther Mail support APOP? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Yoram >> > > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From fischer@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Oct 27 09:56:35 2003 Received: from serpens.Berkeley.EDU (serpens [128.32.92.169]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9RHuQN15217; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:56:26 -0800 (PST) From: Debra Fischer Received: (from fischer@localhost) by serpens.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) id h9RHsfa26238; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:54:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:54:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200310271754.h9RHsfa26238@serpens.Berkeley.EDU> To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Mail on Mac Cc: gmarcy@astron.Berkeley.EDU, paul@dtm.ciw.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 4287 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 160 Hi All, I installed Panther on my G4 at home. The xwindow display is now a problem - the window bar is under the top menu bar and is immoveable. I am sure there is a fix for this, but that's one bug I encountered. debra > From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Oct 27 09:51:21 2003 > X-Authentication-Warning: seyfert.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:48:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Josh Goldston > X-X-Sender: goldston@seyfert > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: Re: Mail on Mac > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Folks, > > I too would be interested in using 'Mail', particularly with the > new panther stuff. One question: How does Mail interact with pine? I used > to use Eudora and pine, depending upon where I was as an undergrad, but > sometimes my Eudora would try to redownload all of my messages as if they > were new. Is this just a Eudora quirk? If there are enough people > interested, maybe we should 'go public' and get it working smoothly for > all of us, as Franck mentioned. > > Also, I'd like to 'give a shout out' to panther. I tried it out in > the apple store, and bought a copy (which I have yet to install). It is > absolutely fabulous. Particularly Expose', which will be an immense > time-saver. If you are on the fence, get off it - embedded X11 (now it > really is the sexiest Xwindows), Expose', Xcode (for the hard core), fast > user switching; it's just chock full. > > Towing the com pany line, > -Josh > > On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Franck Marchis wrote: > > > Yoram, > > > > I had a long email exchange with Kelley about the access to POP (I > > received the same email than you). He finally agreed to let me use POP > > if I disable the 5min automatic access and access to it only sometimes > > when I received an email. > > APOP is not supported by iMail, only by Eudora. > > There are several version of encrypted access through POP (Using SSl, > > Kuporos etc...) but Kelley does not with to support it for the moment. > > If a lot of us access to our email by POP we may then ask Kelley to > > support them (SSL is not that difficult to be used and it is compatible > > with a lot of mailers on different OS) > > > > Cheers > > Franck M. > > > > > > On Sunday, Oct 26, 2003, at 20:30 America/Los_Angeles, Paul Kalas wrote: > > > > > From what I understand, Kelley doesn't want you using POP to check mail > > > every five minutes (it's one of the settings you choose in your > > > preferences). > > > For example, I use "Mail" with POP, but I only check mail manually. > > > > > > Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 > > > MB mail > > > message. Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas > > > file as small as possible for Mail to work. > > > > > > If Panther has improved Mail, then that's a good reason to get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:31 PM, Yoram wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> To macusers: > > >> > > >> Does anyone use OS X "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from > > >> astron? If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives? > > >> > > >> I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is > > >> insecure (passwords are not encrypted). The only alternative he > > >> gave me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora. > > >> > > >> On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP. So I > > >> guess the policy has changed. But is there any way to use IMAP, or > > >> ssh? Or does Panther Mail support APOP? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Yoram > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > > Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- > > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- > > > > > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * > * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 753b Campbell Hall ** * > Cellular: 510 299 4427 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 > Office: 510 643 8592 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 > ** * * * ** * * * ** > > From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Oct 27 09:58:05 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9RHw4N15310 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:58:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:59:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Fwd: Important Notice regarding IDL and ENVI on Mac OS X 10.2.x From: Franck Marchis To: macusers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5CE1A90A-08A7-11D8-B8BA-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1470 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 161 for your information. IDL 6.0 is compatible with Panther and RSINC encourages people to upgrade their system ASAP (Bug report below). Begin forwarded message: > From: RSI E-mail Support > Date: Thu Oct 23, 2003 16:09:21 America/Los_Angeles > To: "'fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu'" > Subject: Important Notice regarding IDL and ENVI on Mac OS X 10.2.x > > Dear Franck Marchis: > > RSI wishes to alert you about a bug in Mac OS 10.2.x that can cause > corruption of IDL arrays. The bug affects IDL and ENVI on G4 machines > with > the Altivec processor running Mac OS X v10.2.x. > > We have been able to verify that Apple has fixed the problem in the > latest > version of Mac OS X, and you are urged to upgrade to Mac OS 10.3 as > soon as > possible. > > In the meantime, you should be aware of this behavior as well as > possible > work-arounds. Please see the tech tip on the RSI Web site for more > information: > > http://www.rsinc.com/services/techtip.asp?wid=935967&ttid=3580 > > Thank you for your understanding, > RSI Technical Support > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From kelley@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Nov 3 09:18:27 2003 Received: from beast (beast [128.32.92.126]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id hA3HIQN10312 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:18:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200311031718.hA3HIQN10312@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 09:17:57 -0800 (PST) From: Kelley McDonald Reply-To: Kelley McDonald Subject: Re: Mail on Mac To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: CuNLMkfU5NZlwXstIiXByA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.5.5 SunOS 5.9 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 2212 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 162 Let me clarify: 1) It is insecure to check your email using POP without using APOP as an authentication method. Please do not use POP with Password authentication if at all possible. 2) It is even less secure to do this in a periodic fashion, if you have to use POP with Password authentication, please do not do it repeatedly or frequently. I am not saying you cannot use POP, I am saying that you are creating a risk doing so AND I would appreciate you taking steps to remove or limit this risk. Kelley ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:30:12 -0800 Subject: Re: Mail on Mac Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU To: Yoram From: Paul Kalas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From what I understand, Kelley doesn't want you using POP to check mail every five minutes (it's one of the settings you choose in your preferences). For example, I use "Mail" with POP, but I only check mail manually. Also, Mail often fails to check mail after I've received a large, >1 MB mail message. Overall, I've had to keep my /var/mail/kalas file as small as possible for Mail to work. If Panther has improved Mail, then that's a good reason to get it. On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:31 PM, Yoram wrote: > > To macusers: > > Does anyone use OS X "Mail" in a secure way to read mail from astron? > If not, are there any non-Eudora alternatives? > > I was using Mail until Kelley told me that I can't because POP is > insecure (passwords are not encrypted). The only alternative he gave > me was Eudora, which supports APOP; but I hate Eudora. > > On the macusers archive, it seemed that people were using POP. So I > guess the policy has changed. But is there any way to use IMAP, or > ssh? Or does Panther Mail support APOP? > > > > Thanks, > Yoram > ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- ------------------------------------------------------ Kelley McDonald Sr. Systems Administrator Astronomy Department kelley@astro.berkeley.edu ------------------------------------------------------ From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Sun Nov 9 21:57:25 2003 Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (as3-4-113.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.196.99]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAA5vHN08524; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:57:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:57:50 -0800 Subject: virtual desktops in OS X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: Saurabh Jha From: Paul Kalas In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 1138 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 163 Hi Saurabh, I tried the virtual desktop for a few weeks. I got the feeling that my operating system was slowed down, so I ran some tests. The virtual desktop slows down the user interface by 10%. Also I experienced several crashes that have never happened before - freezing of the entire OS, and unexpected application quits. Today I decided to remove it from my startup items. Paul p.s. I have 1 GHz Powerbook with OS 10.2.6, 768 RAM On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 01:09 AM, Saurabh Jha wrote: > > Normally I'm loathe to be a corporate shill, but this software > is too good. Want virtual desktops in OS X? Want focus-follows-mouse > in all your windows (not just X)? This does it (and probably lots > more, I've only been using it for 10 minutes and was blown away > and felt the need to share): > > http://www.codetek.com/php/virtual.php > > There is a free download version -- it limits you to 2 virtual > desktops (but looks otherwise full-featured). The unrestricted > version costs $30. > > If you play around with it, let me know how well it works (or > doesn't) for you, before I send them my $30. > > -saurabh > From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Nov 11 00:08:39 2003 Received: from irk.Berkeley.EDU (irk [128.32.92.74]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAB88cN18880 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by irk.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAB87PN21134 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:07:25 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: irk.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:07:25 -0800 (PST) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@irk To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: aips Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 295 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 164 Hi, Has anyone here successfully installed AIPS on their mac? I'd like to give it a try, but I don't think I'm qualified for this quite yet. I read through the instructions and it is a little dense. I'd just like to chat with someone about how they did it and what to expect. Thanks, Karin From dreher@seti.org Thu Nov 13 08:45:31 2003 Received: from smtp.seti.org (smtp.seti.org [208.253.214.143]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hADGjUN12236 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from seti.org (192-231-93-196.ao.naic.edu [192.231.93.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.seti.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hADGjrmk023198; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:45:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:45:53 -0800 Subject: interesting bit o' software FYI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: Mike Davis To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: John Dreher Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 48 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 165 http://homepage.mac.com/sweetcocoa/lapcop.html From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Tue Nov 18 11:22:57 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAIJMtN22881; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:22:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 11:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: noise@celestial.Berkeley.EDU cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: He'll core dump in his pants Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 261 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 166 http://secretworldofnerds.com/atlas_nerd.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Nov 18 22:29:20 2003 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAJ6TIN16494 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJ6TIRP010060 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAJ6TIhN021692 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hAJ6TI9I021689 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:29:18 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: backing up over firwire using rsync... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 446 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 167 If anyone out there backs up their Mac latop over firwire with rsync, let me know... I've tried it and I get a mysterious protocol error... it would suck to have to tar like the olden days. Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "Stars won't sue you." --Gibor Basri, Astronomer From jrg@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Nov 19 08:32:48 2003 Received: from graham.Berkeley.EDU (graham [128.32.92.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAJGWlN25788; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:32:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jrg@localhost) by graham.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAJGWl901174; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:32:47 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: graham.Berkeley.EDU: jrg owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:32:46 -0800 (PST) From: "james r. graham 649" X-X-Sender: jrg@graham To: Joseph Lorenzo Hall cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: backing up over firwire using rsync... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 663 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 168 Hi Joe - I have a LaCie firewire disk. I just plugged it in and rsync works fine. There are some files that rsync refuses to copy---I haven't figured this out, but they appear to be files with unusual characters in the file name. - James ****************************************************************** James R. Graham Prof. of Astronomy email: jrg@astro.berkeley.edu 601 Campbell Hall http://astron.berkeley.edu/~jrg/ University of California tel: (510) 642-8283 Berkeley CA 94720-3411 fax: (510) 642-3411 ****************************************************************** From youd@astro.princeton.edu Wed Nov 19 11:00:28 2003 Received: from mail.astro.princeton.edu (mercury.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.25.50]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAJJ0RN01415 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 11:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.astro.princeton.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B9DE1617; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.astro.princeton.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.astro.princeton.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24281-07; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.princeton.edu (solstice.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.24.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.astro.princeton.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FB410F90; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:00:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 14:00:46 -0500 Subject: Re: X winders and a way through, over and under the problem... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: James Colby Kraybill From: Andrew Youdin In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Length: 1188 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 169 So I have the problem that X11 cannot open displays after I unplug from a network. I get an error message like this: > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: No protocol specified > > gv: Unable to open the display. I think this is the problem that Colby solved below. Could someone tell me how to include those options in the X11 startup? Many thanks from cold and damp Princeton ... where the Leonids were clouded out last night :( -Andrew On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 03:16 PM, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > In regards to switching networks, here's a solution: > > You can start the X server with the options: > > -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp > > This will force the server to use UNIX domain sockets, which are > communication channels local to the machine. Then, tunnel all of > your X traffic via ssh. > > et voila, no more xauthority problemos, along with making your > machine slightly more secure... > > - Colby > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Wed Nov 19 12:20:36 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAJKKZN05564; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:20:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:20:35 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Andrew Youdin cc: James Colby Kraybill , macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: X winders and a way through, over and under the problem... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2155 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 170 Upgrading to Panther seems to have broken my XDarwin set up. But... Try, XDarwinStartup -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp and see if it launches. Then, you should be able to have the ssh -X stuff work. You could wrap that into a script and put it in the launch bar. The script would look like: #!/bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/XDarwinStartup -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp You could even give the script the fancy little X icon that XDarwin has by selecting the XDarwin app, apple-I it (show view options), select the icon, apple-c (copy it), then apple-I (show view options) for the script, select the icon, apple-v (paste it). - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Youdin wrote: > So I have the problem that X11 cannot open displays after I unplug from > a network. I get an error message like this: > > > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > > Xlib: No protocol specified > > > > gv: Unable to open the display. > > I think this is the problem that Colby solved below. Could someone > tell me how to include those options in the X11 startup? > > Many thanks from cold and damp Princeton ... where the Leonids were > clouded out last night :( > > -Andrew > > On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 03:16 PM, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > > > > In regards to switching networks, here's a solution: > > > > You can start the X server with the options: > > > > -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp > > > > This will force the server to use UNIX domain sockets, which are > > communication channels local to the machine. Then, tunnel all of > > your X traffic via ssh. > > > > et voila, no more xauthority problemos, along with making your > > machine slightly more secure... > > > > - Colby > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > > > > > > > From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Nov 19 12:12:30 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id hAJKCSN05231; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:12:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200311192012.hAJKCSN05231@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:12:29 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: backing up over firwire using rsync... To: jhall@sims.berkeley.edu, jrg@astron.berkeley.edu Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: bF3LbF3G99NnfxYF6PnNvw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 534 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 171 Hi Joe, I've been using rsync for a long time. Whenever I've had problems I've gone to the discussion board that their web page hosts. I seem to recall your question as one of the issues. Rsync doesn't make exact backups. For example, when I boot from my backup drive on another machine, things like IDL and DS9 do not work properly. I also downloaded DVBackup - apparently you can use a miniDV tape and a camcorder to backup 10 GB at a time. I haven't tried it yet, but I'll let macusers know what happens. Cheers, Paul From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Nov 20 04:07:20 2003 Received: from thorin.ucolick.org (thorin.ucolick.org [128.114.176.253]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAKC7FN03813 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from astron.berkeley.edu (mh-dhcp-06.ucolick.org [128.114.176.136]) by thorin.ucolick.org (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id hAKC78R08912 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:07:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:08:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Fastest supercomputers in the world. From: Franck Marchis To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <516C5E26-1B52-11D8-A7C7-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Content-Length: 444 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 172 http://www.top500.org/ G5 cluster at virginia Tech University is number 3 F. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Researcher Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From youd@astro.princeton.edu Thu Nov 20 10:56:19 2003 Received: from mail.astro.princeton.edu (mercury.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.25.50]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAKIuHN12291 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.astro.princeton.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE60E2635; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.astro.princeton.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.astro.princeton.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17947-04; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.princeton.edu (solstice.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.24.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.astro.princeton.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39DAE261C; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:56:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:56:32 -0500 Subject: Re: X winders and a way through, over and under the problem... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: James Colby Kraybill From: Andrew Youdin In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <419CC8AA-1B8B-11D8-8094-00039396E36A@astro.princeton.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Length: 2715 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 173 I'm not sure if this is relevant to me since I use Mac's X11. I did find a simple solution though. If I uncheck "Authenticate Connections" in the "Security" panel in X11's preferences then I can plug and unplug from a network without restarting X11. You're also supposed to disable "allow connections from network clients" in this case, which is fine for me since I don't do this. Best, Andrew On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, at 03:20 PM, James Colby Kraybill wrote: > > > Upgrading to Panther seems to have broken my XDarwin set up. > But... > > Try, XDarwinStartup -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp and see if > it launches. > > Then, you should be able to have the ssh -X stuff work. > > You could wrap that into a script and put it in the launch bar. > > The script would look like: > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/X11R6/bin/XDarwinStartup -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp > > > You could even give the script the fancy little X icon > that XDarwin has by selecting the XDarwin app, apple-I it (show > view options), select the icon, apple-c (copy it), then apple-I > (show view options) for the script, select the icon, apple-v (paste > it). > > - Colby > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory > colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley > > > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Youdin wrote: > >> So I have the problem that X11 cannot open displays after I unplug >> from >> a network. I get an error message like this: >> >>> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server >>> Xlib: No protocol specified >>> >>> gv: Unable to open the display. >> >> I think this is the problem that Colby solved below. Could someone >> tell me how to include those options in the X11 startup? >> >> Many thanks from cold and damp Princeton ... where the Leonids were >> clouded out last night :( >> >> -Andrew >> >> On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 03:16 PM, James Colby Kraybill >> wrote: >> >>> >>> In regards to switching networks, here's a solution: >>> >>> You can start the X server with the options: >>> >>> -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp >>> >>> This will force the server to use UNIX domain sockets, which are >>> communication channels local to the machine. Then, tunnel all of >>> your X traffic via ssh. >>> >>> et voila, no more xauthority problemos, along with making your >>> machine slightly more secure... >>> >>> - Colby >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory >>> colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> From youd@astro.princeton.edu Thu Nov 20 11:05:27 2003 Received: from mail.astro.princeton.edu (mercury.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.25.50]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAKJ5QN12787 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.astro.princeton.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C19E25DD for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.astro.princeton.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.astro.princeton.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18214-04; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from astro.princeton.edu (solstice.astro.Princeton.EDU [128.112.24.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.astro.princeton.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D00BD1807; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:05:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:05:29 -0500 Subject: abuse of english language Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: Andrew Youdin From: Andrew Youdin In-Reply-To: <419CC8AA-1B8B-11D8-8094-00039396E36A@astro.princeton.edu> Message-Id: <819B55F2-1B8C-11D8-8094-00039396E36A@astro.princeton.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Length: 3116 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 174 Let me apologize. The first sentence of the last message should have read that "I'm not sure that Colby's advice (which seems to pertain to a different XDarwin setup) was relevant to me." On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 01:56 PM, Andrew Youdin wrote: > I'm not sure if this is relevant to me since I use Mac's X11. I did > find a simple solution though. If I uncheck "Authenticate > Connections" in the "Security" panel in X11's preferences then I can > plug and unplug from a network without restarting X11. You're also > supposed to disable "allow connections from network clients" in this > case, which is fine for me since I don't do this. > > Best, > Andrew > > On Wednesday, November 19, 2003, at 03:20 PM, James Colby Kraybill > wrote: > >> >> >> Upgrading to Panther seems to have broken my XDarwin set up. >> But... >> >> Try, XDarwinStartup -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp and see if >> it launches. >> >> Then, you should be able to have the ssh -X stuff work. >> >> You could wrap that into a script and put it in the launch bar. >> >> The script would look like: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> /usr/X11R6/bin/XDarwinStartup -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp >> >> >> You could even give the script the fancy little X icon >> that XDarwin has by selecting the XDarwin app, apple-I it (show >> view options), select the icon, apple-c (copy it), then apple-I >> (show view options) for the script, select the icon, apple-v (paste >> it). >> >> - Colby >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory >> colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Andrew Youdin wrote: >> >>> So I have the problem that X11 cannot open displays after I unplug >>> from >>> a network. I get an error message like this: >>> >>>> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server >>>> Xlib: No protocol specified >>>> >>>> gv: Unable to open the display. >>> >>> I think this is the problem that Colby solved below. Could someone >>> tell me how to include those options in the X11 startup? >>> >>> Many thanks from cold and damp Princeton ... where the Leonids were >>> clouded out last night :( >>> >>> -Andrew >>> >>> On Thursday, October 2, 2003, at 03:16 PM, James Colby Kraybill >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> In regards to switching networks, here's a solution: >>>> >>>> You can start the X server with the options: >>>> >>>> -nolisten tcp -nolisten udp >>>> >>>> This will force the server to use UNIX domain sockets, which are >>>> communication channels local to the machine. Then, tunnel all of >>>> your X traffic via ssh. >>>> >>>> et voila, no more xauthority problemos, along with making your >>>> machine slightly more secure... >>>> >>>> - Colby >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>>> James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy >>>> Laboratory >>>> colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, >>>> Berkeley >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu Nov 20 11:45:05 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hAKJj3N14722; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:45:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:45:03 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: noise@celestial.Berkeley.EDU cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU, linuxusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Bill Joy on Mac OS X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1016 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 175 Bill Joy, co-founder of Sun Microsystems and up until recently, Chief Scientist. http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/11/20/joy/index.php?redirect=1069328016000 ... When the interviewer asks Joy about his "famously cool" attitude towards Linux, Joy responded, "Re-implementing what I designed in 1979 is not interesting to me personally. For kids who are 20 years younger than me, Linux is a great way to cut your teeth. It's a cultural phenomenon and a business phenomenon. Mac OS X is a rock-solid system that's beautifully designed. I much prefer it to Linux." Then again, perhaps there's some parental hubris behind Joy's comments: Among his other accomplishments, Joy is credited with coding Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) Unix, the core underpinnings upon which Mac OS X is based. --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:19:05 2003 Received: from [128.32.92.204] (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBANJ5a25643 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:19:05 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7EB4A7F8-2B67-11D8-95CF-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers From: Franck Marchis Subject: Change shell in xterm with X11-Panther Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:20:51 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Length: 796 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 176 Hello, I installed Panther on my computer. It is obviously faster. X11 is also integrated in the installation. per default, the shell is bash. I changed it using chsh to tcsh. it works fine when I open a terminal window, but any xterm windows keep using bash shell. Note that it works too when I enter tcsh in the xterm window. The problem is just annoying and the reasons are uncleared to me. If you have an idea? Cheers F. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 10 18:50:34 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBB2oYa03496; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:50:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:50:34 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Franck Marchis cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Change shell in xterm with X11-Panther In-Reply-To: <7EB4A7F8-2B67-11D8-95CF-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <7EB4A7F8-2B67-11D8-95CF-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1325 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 177 Have you tried completely logging out and back in after you changed the shell (rebooting works too)? Open Applications->Utilities->NetInfo Manager, look under users->youraccount, check that the shell key has /bin/tcsh - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Franck Marchis wrote: > Hello, > > I installed Panther on my computer. It is obviously faster. > X11 is also integrated in the installation. > > per default, the shell is bash. > I changed it using chsh to tcsh. > > it works fine when I open a terminal window, but any xterm windows > keep using bash shell. Note that it works too when I enter tcsh in the > xterm window. > The problem is just annoying and the reasons are uncleared to me. > > If you have an idea? > Cheers > F. > > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- > From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Dec 12 10:11:48 2003 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id hBCIBka00171 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:11:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200312121811.hBCIBka00171@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:10:52 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Re: rescue CD from slot drive To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: oQVp7wdB96rvUSvWWxg51A== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 899 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 178 This happened to me once but it was a badly burned DVD (by the same superdrive *_*;). I did something even worse that I rebooted the machine. Well, you can probably guess that the startup would never go through since the system was dying hard to contact the drive, which still holded the jammed DVD. I called Apple Care and here is what they told me to get the disc out. 1. Turn off the Mac by pressing the power button for 4-5 sec. 2. Take off the keyboard and press the reset underneath F12 key. 3. Turn on the computer and immediately hold the following 4 keys at the same time: Flower(Apple) - Option - O - F. Hold them until you see a white screen comes up. 4. Type "eject cd" and return. You should pick up the evil disc now (finally >_<;). 5. Type "reset-all" and return Hope this can be helpful when you are out of the country without any Apple store nearby. Vivien From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Dec 12 08:57:20 2003 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id hBCGvJa28103 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:57:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200312121657.hBCGvJa28103@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: rescue CD from slot drive To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 6zWWJLwSfS/CLOEcd/TUvw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 456 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 179 My powerbook slot-loading CD/DVD drive recently jammed: a CD would neither mount, nor would it eject. I couldn't find much help except that I had to send it in for repair. However, I found the following trick: take a credit card and wrap tape around it with the sticky side out. Stick it in the slot, capture your CD or DVD, and pull it out. Actually, I used a credit card that still had that sticky substance they use to affix it to paper. Paul From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Dec 16 15:38:55 2003 Received: from [128.32.92.204] (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBGNcsa26897 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:38:54 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <41BF8F8C-3021-11D8-807B-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers From: Franck Marchis Subject: Konfabulator Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:40:40 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Length: 654 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 180 If your computer is too fast... if you like to have thousand of gadgets on your desktop... if you have time to waste... Install Konfabulator http://www.konfabulator.com/ there are more than 200 widgets, some are extremely useful, other are totally useless but fun. cheers Franck Marchis --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +From yoram@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Dec 18 13:37:08 2003 Received: from [192.168.1.226] (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBILb7a08995; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:37:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <535EF367-31A2-11D8-B6E2-000A95A4E8C6@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Yoram Lithwick Subject: Re: supermongo Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:37:06 -0800 To: Karin Sandstrom X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Length: 261 Status: RO X-Status: $$$$ X-UID: On Dec 18, 2003, at 12:47 PM, Karin Sandstrom wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone installed supermongo on their Mac? > > Karin > Yes. There are helpful instructions for this (and a few other things) at http://astron.berkeley.edu/computing/macfaq.html --Yoram From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Dec 18 12:47:01 2003 Received: from cusp.Berkeley.EDU (cusp [128.32.92.53]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBIKl0a06852 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by cusp.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBIKl0k04649 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:47:00 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: cusp.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:47:00 -0800 (PST) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@cusp To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: supermongo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 58 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 181 Hi, Has anyone installed supermongo on their Mac? Karin From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Sun Dec 28 11:02:28 2003 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBSIsRa23128 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBSIsMh0005372 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBSIsLFE005882 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBSIsLbh005879 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: emacs after panther upgrade... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 432 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 182 My recent upgrade to Panther went pretty damn well, I must say. However... my emacs21 is now broken: spider.local>emacs -nw Fatal malloc_jumpstart() error I'm wondering if anyone else has had and solved this problem? best, Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ From colby@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 20:29:46 2003 Received: from astron (astron [128.32.92.108]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBP4Tda22855; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:29:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 20:29:39 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Saurabh Jha cc: Vivien Chen , macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20D3D6C9-3667-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1573 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 183 If you look at the contents of proxy.pac (it's javascript), it has a list of ~387 domains it checks against. If the site you're navigating to doesn't match, it returns proxy_no which is set to "DIRECT". See the following for more info on how proxy.pac works: http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/proxy-live.html - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Saurabh Jha wrote: > On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Vivien Chen wrote: > > > I thought I did the same thing but it didn't work. Then I tried the web > > proxy again with "proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" instead of > > "http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" and it worked! I am not sure if this is > > a Panther problem. Thanks James. > > In Panther, you can use the automatic proxy configuration with Safari > (contrary to what the library website says). > > If you click on the Safari->Preferences->Advanced->Proxies Change Settings > it actually starts up the network system preferences and the proxies > tab. If you select the last item in the list "Automatic Proxy > Configuration", and for the Proxy Configuration File URL enter: > > http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu:7777/proxy.pac > > it should work. > > Does anyone know how much this slows down loading web pages that > aren't through the proxy? Does it really check that file every > time you request any page or does it cache it some smart way? > > -saurabh > From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 19:05:22 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBP35La22094; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBP33vE06300; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:03:57 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 19:03:56 -0800 (PST) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: Vivien Chen cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20D3D6C9-3667-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 934 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 184 On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Vivien Chen wrote: > I thought I did the same thing but it didn't work. Then I tried the web > proxy again with "proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" instead of > "http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" and it worked! I am not sure if this is > a Panther problem. Thanks James. In Panther, you can use the automatic proxy configuration with Safari (contrary to what the library website says). If you click on the Safari->Preferences->Advanced->Proxies Change Settings it actually starts up the network system preferences and the proxies tab. If you select the last item in the list "Automatic Proxy Configuration", and for the Proxy Configuration File URL enter: http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu:7777/proxy.pac it should work. Does anyone know how much this slows down loading web pages that aren't through the proxy? Does it really check that file every time you request any page or does it cache it some smart way? -saurabh From hchen@astron.berkeley.edu Wed Dec 24 16:10:41 2003 Received: from meso (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBP0Aea20008 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:10:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:10:40 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Chen X-X-Sender: hchen@meso To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari In-Reply-To: <20D3D6C9-3667-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <20D3D6C9-3667-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 721 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 185 I thought I did the same thing but it didn't work. Then I tried the web proxy again with "proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" instead of "http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" and it worked! I am not sure if this is a Panther problem. Thanks James. Vivien On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, James Graham wrote: > Under the Safari tab on the menu bar select preferences. It should come > up with a box showing "style sheet" and "proxies". Click "change > settings..." for the proxies and on the page that opens check the "Web > Proxy (HTTP)" radio button. Enter "proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" and port > 7777. Click apply. Next time you visit a web page you will be asked for > your CalID and password. This happens only once per session. > > - James > > From jrg@uclink.berkeley.edu Wed Dec 24 15:15:56 2003 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBONFta19304; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBONFsW1006793; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:15:55 -0800 Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (adsl-64-164-3-22.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.164.3.22]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBONFsWp006786; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:15:54 -0800 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:15:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: huei-ru chen From: James Graham In-Reply-To: <200312242133.hBOLXYa17533@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-Id: <20D3D6C9-3667-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-Length: 424 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 186 Under the Safari tab on the menu bar select preferences. It should come up with a box showing "style sheet" and "proxies". Click "change settings..." for the proxies and on the page that opens check the "Web Proxy (HTTP)" radio button. Enter "proxy.lib.berkeley.edu" and port 7777. Click apply. Next time you visit a web page you will be asked for your CalID and password. This happens only once per session. - James From jrg@uclink.berkeley.edu Wed Dec 24 15:24:43 2003 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBONOga19423; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBONOgW1012903; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:42 -0800 Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (adsl-64-164-3-22.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.164.3.22]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBONOeWp012889; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Cc: huei-ru chen , macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: joehall@pobox.com From: James Graham In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5ADC605E-3668-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-Length: 275 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 187 Hi Joe - The procedure I described lets me download subscription-only papers from ADS when I'm not using a Berkeley IP address. I'm not sure what it means by saying that Safari does not support "automatic proxies". Maybe this is a case of ignorance is bliss. - James From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Wed Dec 24 15:34:42 2003 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBONYfa19512; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBONYaVL009431; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBONYZFE004430; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBONYZR5004427; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:34:35 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:34:35 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: James Graham cc: huei-ru chen , Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari In-Reply-To: <5ADC605E-3668-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2451 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 188 Maybe newer versions of Safari do support automatic configuration... before, you had to manually change to the proxy address every time you'd get stiffed on a paper... I find electronic access indespensible. By the way, I just used the proxy to download two papers that informed me of two pieces of depressing news for the day: 1) The Soviets launched more than 30 nuclear reactors on satellites... the higher-orbit ones are quite strong and, when in the sky, outshine the crab nebula by a factor of 50 in gamma rays... The US wants to put more reactors in space as part of it's Strategic Defense Initiative to power extremely low earth orbit spacecraft (where solar panels would produce too much drag). 2) Any "space war" that involved explosions in low-earth orbit would eventually make space travel and satellites (civilian, research or military) impossible as the Earth would be surrounded by debris at high velocities. Further, the only thing an adversary would have to do to take out the next generation of space weapons (lasers the size of JWST, kinetic weapons, etc.) would be to launch a cloud of gravel so that it intersected with the weapon... (think of gravel traveling at 27000kph!). Anyway... take care, Joe On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, James Graham wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:24:43 -0800 > From: James Graham > To: joehall@pobox.com > Cc: huei-ru chen , macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari > > Hi Joe - > > The procedure I described lets me download subscription-only papers > from ADS when I'm not using a Berkeley IP address. I'm not sure what it > means by saying that Safari does not support "automatic proxies". Maybe > this is a case of ignorance is bliss. > > - James > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "I have grown fond of semicolons in recent years... It is almost always a greater pleasure to come across a semicolon than a period. The period tells you that that is that; if you didn't get all the meaning you wanted or expected, anyway you got all the writer intended to parcel out and now you have to move along. But with a semicolon there you get a pleasant little feeling of expectancy; there is more to come; read on; it will get clearer." -Lewis Thomas From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 13:33:35 2003 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id hBOLXYa17533 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:33:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200312242133.hBOLXYa17533@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:32:35 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Library proxy with Safari To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: HWfABEUqbzH5jIysX+Iszw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 355 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 189 Dear Mac Users, Does anyone know how to make the library proxy service work with Safari? I just hope to download papers I want from ADS when I find them at home. They mentioned that "Safari decidedly does not (support Automatic Proxy Configuration)." at http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu/. Is there a way to get around with this problem? Vivien From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Wed Dec 24 14:10:39 2003 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOMAca18377; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOMAXVL027818; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOMAXFE000879; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id hBOMAX91000876; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:33 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:10:32 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: huei-ru chen cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Library proxy with Safari In-Reply-To: <200312242133.hBOLXYa17533@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1410 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 190 You could use Mozilla or Firebird (or another browser of your choosing) that *does* support automatic config. proxy *only* when you have to use library resources... Joe On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, huei-ru chen wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:32:35 -0800 (PST) > From: huei-ru chen > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: Library proxy with Safari > > Dear Mac Users, > > Does anyone know how to make the library proxy service work with Safari? > I just hope to download papers I want from ADS when I find them at home. They > mentioned that "Safari decidedly does not (support Automatic Proxy > Configuration)." at http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu/. Is there a way to get > around with this problem? > > Vivien > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "I have grown fond of semicolons in recent years... It is almost always a greater pleasure to come across a semicolon than a period. The period tells you that that is that; if you didn't get all the meaning you wanted or expected, anyway you got all the writer intended to parcel out and now you have to move along. But with a semicolon there you get a pleasant little feeling of expectancy; there is more to come; read on; it will get clearer." -Lewis Thomas From colby@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 14:49:14 2003 Received: from astron (astron [128.32.92.108]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOMnDa18995; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:49:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:49:13 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: James Graham cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Backups & DVD question In-Reply-To: <6D942934-3642-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <6D942934-3642-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1259 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 191 The DVD writers that come with Apples are DVD-R/RW only. DVD+R/RW is a newer format and unfortunately, useless in Mac superdrives. --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, James Graham wrote: > Hi - > > I've been using rsync, especially with the compress (z) and update (u) > options. However, from time to time rsync generates cryptic and > disconcerting error messages, which I assume means that some files have > not been copied. I have also found that running rsync twice with the -u > switch (without changing anything on either file system) rsync decides > to copy some more files. > > So when I really want to make sure that a file system is archived I > still make an old fashioned tar file. > > On the topic of archiving I've been using both CDs and DVDs to save > data. However, I just bought some DVD's from Verbatim: the package > describes them as "Verbatim DVD+R 1-2.4x speed 4.7 GB data". The drive > in my G4 laptop refuses to mount these---it just spits them out after > "thinking" for about a minute. Any suggestions? > > Thanks > > - James > From jrg@uclink.berkeley.edu Wed Dec 24 10:53:18 2003 Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (rend.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.164]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOIrGa15071 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from uclink-r.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOIrEW1022814 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:53:14 -0800 Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (adsl-64-164-3-22.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.164.3.22]) by uclink-r.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBOIrBWp022807 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:53:13 -0800 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:53:14 -0800 Reply-To: James Graham Subject: Backups & DVD question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: James Graham To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6D942934-3642-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-Length: 842 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 192 Hi - I've been using rsync, especially with the compress (z) and update (u) options. However, from time to time rsync generates cryptic and disconcerting error messages, which I assume means that some files have not been copied. I have also found that running rsync twice with the -u switch (without changing anything on either file system) rsync decides to copy some more files. So when I really want to make sure that a file system is archived I still make an old fashioned tar file. On the topic of archiving I've been using both CDs and DVDs to save data. However, I just bought some DVD's from Verbatim: the package describes them as "Verbatim DVD+R 1-2.4x speed 4.7 GB data". The drive in my G4 laptop refuses to mount these---it just spits them out after "thinking" for about a minute. Any suggestions? Thanks - James From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 11:34:40 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOJYca15625; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:34:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOJXEe06261; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:33:14 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 11:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: James Graham cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Backups & DVD question In-Reply-To: <6D942934-3642-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <6D942934-3642-11D8-81FC-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 643 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 193 On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, James Graham wrote: > On the topic of archiving I've been using both CDs and DVDs to save > data. However, I just bought some DVD's from Verbatim: the package > describes them as "Verbatim DVD+R 1-2.4x speed 4.7 GB data". The drive > in my G4 laptop refuses to mount these---it just spits them out after > "thinking" for about a minute. Any suggestions? > Assuming you're using the Apple Superdrive -- it doesn't write to DVD+R discs, only DVD-R discs. I don't know what the technical difference is, but there is one. Avoid the ones with the plus sign. More info at: http://dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#4.3 -saurabh From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:06:50 2003 Received: from pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOI6na14064 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (adsl-64-160-164-93.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.160.164.93]) by pimout3-ext.prodigy.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBOI6mJx222242 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 13:06:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <30B8399D-363C-11D8-AD01-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU From: Franck Marchis Subject: Smart data backup on our network, on iPOD or through PC-Mac network? Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:08:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Length: 1851 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 194 Dear Mac Users, Some of you, like me, are concerned by the backup possibility for their laptop, especially if you travel a lot increasing then the risk of damage and theft. I have been trying to backup my data on the network at the department but it is amazingly slow and not very efficient since the only easy way I found is to scp all my files every time (quite dummy). I heard that it is possible to do a smart backup synchronizing the data but I do not know much about this. If some of you found a solution she/he may share it with us? I also bought an iPod and I thought I could use iSync to synchronize my data between the iPod fireware disk and my account. Unfortunately Apple seems to have desactivated this option with iSync, even if I ask the system to consider my iPod as a firewire disk too. If you have some inputs? Finally, I have a PC-Microsoft at home with 100 Gb of disk available (I know.. shame on me). I managed to share its disk and can download most of my files on it. Unfortunately, it seems that this stupid PC-microsoft cannot deal with files which have a name bigger than 25 letters. Do you know a software which can help to correct this problem? My final question will be, if you know a good backup program who can deal with all of these issues then just let me know. Back up is important, I remembered it when half of my Document files disappeared after I tried to correct a problem on my disk using DiskWarrior. Cheers Franck Marchis --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:15:46 2003 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOIEUa14167; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:14:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:14:21 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: Franck Marchis cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Smart data backup on our network, on iPOD or through PC-Mac network? In-Reply-To: <30B8399D-363C-11D8-AD01-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <30B8399D-363C-11D8-AD01-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2266 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 195 There's rsync: http://astron.berkeley.edu/computing/macfaq.html#rsync (don't be confused by the Sun->Mac part, the reverse will work too). There's another program called rdiff-backup that is based on the rsync libraries and is more geared towards doing real backups rather than synchronizing of data. - Colby On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Franck Marchis wrote: > Dear Mac Users, > > Some of you, like me, are concerned by the backup possibility for their > laptop, especially if you travel a lot increasing then the risk of > damage and theft. > I have been trying to backup my data on the network at the department > but it is amazingly slow and not very efficient since the only easy way > I found is to scp all my files every time (quite dummy). I heard that > it is possible to do a smart backup synchronizing the data but I do not > know much about this. If some of you found a solution she/he may share > it with us? > > I also bought an iPod and I thought I could use iSync to synchronize my > data between the iPod fireware disk and my account. Unfortunately Apple > seems to have desactivated this option with iSync, even if I ask the > system to consider my iPod as a firewire disk too. > If you have some inputs? > > Finally, I have a PC-Microsoft at home with 100 Gb of disk available (I > know.. shame on me). I managed to share its disk and can download most > of my files on it. Unfortunately, it seems that this stupid > PC-microsoft cannot deal with files which have a name bigger than 25 > letters. Do you know a software which can help to correct this problem? > > My final question will be, if you know a good backup program who can > deal with all of these issues then just let me know. > > Back up is important, I remembered it when half of my Document files > disappeared after I tried to correct a problem on my disk using > DiskWarrior. > > Cheers > Franck Marchis > > > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- > From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Dec 24 10:17:14 2003 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOIHDa14322; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:17:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id hBOIFnj06249; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:15:49 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 10:15:49 -0800 (PST) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: Franck Marchis cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Smart data backup on our network, on iPOD or through PC-Mac network? In-Reply-To: <30B8399D-363C-11D8-AD01-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <30B8399D-363C-11D8-AD01-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 669 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 196 You can use rsync for a lot of stuff -- there's been some discussion of it, but it's better suited for unix-y files rather than mac-like files. The reason is that many of the Mac files use a resource fork (that stores the Finder icon, etc etc) that doesn't get copied when you use "cp" or other unix tools. "man ditto" for more information about a command line tool to copy mac-like files with their resource forks intact. But I have heard extremely good things about a program called Carbon Copy Cloner to do all sort of backups (network, ipod, firewire hard disk). I haven't used it myself, though. It's free at http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html -saurabh From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 5 17:32:24 2004 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i061WMX02582 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i061WKL00448 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:32:20 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 17:32:20 -0800 (PST) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: mapping caps lock to the Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 286 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 197 I have been using uControl to swap and but I found it to be sticky. About 30% of the time it became ctrl-lock because the up-stroke of the key wasn't read properly. Here is a much better fix: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20031102032521826 -JohnJohn From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jan 6 14:12:48 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i06MCkH18546; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:12:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401062212.i06MCkH18546@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:12:47 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: emacs after panther upgrade... To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, joehall@pobox.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: sj92snl9ByhDwpXsN80PWw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1572 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 198 Hi Joe, I just upgraded to Panther 10.3, then 10.3.2, and emacs21 still works. I used your command flags below. When I upgraded to Panther, I did not use the recommended "Archive and Install". Intead, I selected "upgrade", and I installed the new Apple X11 from the Panther CDs. Everything seems to work...idl, atv, iraf, ds9, xv, vi, gv. xfig gives me an error message, but it still seems to work. Also, the STScI APT 13.0 works fine. Toast Titanium 5.1.1 and SnapZ Pro X did not work, so I had to download more recent updates. Now they work fine. Speedwise, I measured no difference in displaying a 4096x4096 image with IRAF and DS9 before and after the Panther upgrade. However, the Expose feature in Panther is extremely useful, and probably worth the trouble of upgrading. Cheers, Paul >X-UIDL: 89bb0d879b1a8706250b31a81ef861e8 >X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs >Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0800 (PST) >From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall >To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >Subject: emacs after panther upgrade... >X-Keywords: > > >My recent upgrade to Panther went pretty damn well, I must say. > >However... my emacs21 is now broken: > >spider.local>emacs -nw >Fatal malloc_jumpstart() error > >I'm wondering if anyone else has had and solved this problem? > >best, Joe > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ >Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Jan 6 14:27:20 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i06MRJH19286; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i06MRE4n017612; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i06MRE1H020284; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i06MRELW020281; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:27:14 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:27:14 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: paul kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: emacs after panther upgrade... In-Reply-To: <200401062212.i06MCkH18546@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2569 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 199 I forgot to mention what worked for me... I'm glad that your transition, Paul, was uneventful. Saurabh Jha recommending copying my entire /sw directory to a new location (/sw.old) and then restarting fink from scratch. This worked wonders and I have no remaining upgrade/fink issues. Joe On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, paul kalas wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:12:47 -0800 (PST) > From: paul kalas > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU, joehall@pobox.com > Subject: Re: emacs after panther upgrade... > > Hi Joe, > > I just upgraded to Panther 10.3, then 10.3.2, and emacs21 still > works. I used your command flags below. > > When I upgraded to Panther, I did not use the recommended > "Archive and Install". Intead, I selected "upgrade", and > I installed the new Apple X11 from the Panther CDs. > > Everything seems to work...idl, atv, iraf, ds9, xv, vi, gv. > xfig gives me an error message, but it still seems to work. > Also, the STScI APT 13.0 works fine. > > Toast Titanium 5.1.1 and SnapZ Pro X did not work, so I > had to download more recent updates. Now they work fine. > > Speedwise, I measured no difference in displaying a > 4096x4096 image with IRAF and DS9 before and after > the Panther upgrade. > > However, the Expose feature in Panther is extremely > useful, and probably worth the trouble of upgrading. > > Cheers, > > Paul > > > > > > >X-UIDL: 89bb0d879b1a8706250b31a81ef861e8 > >X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs > >Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:54:21 -0800 (PST) > >From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall > >To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > >Subject: emacs after panther upgrade... > >X-Keywords: > > > > > >My recent upgrade to Panther went pretty damn well, I must say. > > > >However... my emacs21 is now broken: > > > >spider.local>emacs -nw > >Fatal malloc_jumpstart() error > > > >I'm wondering if anyone else has had and solved this problem? > > > >best, Joe > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ > >Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "The parties are advised to chill." --Judge Kozinski in 'Barbie's battle with the band Aqua' a/k/a 'Mattel v. MCA records' http://tinyurl.com/xcg [www.ca9.uscourts.gov, 108KB PDF] From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jan 8 15:51:11 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i08NpAH01857; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:51:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401082351.i08NpAH01857@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:51:11 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: Mac OS X Tour de Force To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU, colby@astron.berkeley.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 0oThMwDPN2AWNWSTvFZmLA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 343 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 200 Scanning through this, I caught this nice quote (the last sentence): "...If you look at current Apple computers carefully, you'll see that a lot of engineering goes into making them. They are not just "pretty" and stylish (though that might be subjective) - they are functional and well designed. Some people even call them lust worthy. From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jan 8 15:15:54 2004 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i08NFrH00756 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:15:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Mac OS X Tour de Force Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 253 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 201 http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jan 9 10:43:48 2004 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i09IhlH28176 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:43:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:43:47 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Google search for Mac info Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 251 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 202 http://images.google.com/mac.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jan 9 16:19:38 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0A0JbH10906 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:19:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401100019.i0A0JbH10906@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:19:38 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Panther Preview 2.1.0 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: nfGGm/7LdUUCYa4PDDDZwQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 724 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 203 In addition to Expose, Panther has a new version of Preview which is extremely fast, simple and useful for viewing PDF documents. I'd say that Preview is my first choice with respect to Adobe Acrobat for PDF viewing. It also opens jpgs, tiffs, etc. It even correctly displays multi-layer Photoshop files. Also, under File --> Export you can convert files to other formats. Thus Previw also takes on the role of Graphic Converter and other programs that you use to change from one format to another. Cheers, Paul p.s. hintoid: click once on a file you want to open, go to the top finder menu, and choose File --> Open With --> Preview (2.1.0). If you hold down the option key, you will get "Always Open With". From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Jan 9 18:18:39 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0A2IcH14619 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:18:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401100218.i0A2IcH14619@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:18:37 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Re: Panther Preview 2.1.0 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: Lv5wodbE/EMitOSUzrhwTw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1454 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 204 I totally agree with you. Another good feature of Preview is that you can continuously scroll up and down while Adobe just can't do this at all. This is good when I need to quickly scan through a paper. Also, Preview can now crop image! It's a lot easier to prepare a talk if you need a graph from a paper. Go to the Tools menu. There are "Select Tool" and "Crop Image". Use the Select Tool to select the figure you want and then crop image. Bravo!!! I love my Mac. Vivien >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:19:38 -0800 (PST) >From: paul kalas >Subject: Panther Preview 2.1.0 >To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-MD5: nfGGm/7LdUUCYa4PDDDZwQ== > >In addition to Expose, Panther has a new >version of Preview which is extremely >fast, simple and useful for viewing PDF documents. > >I'd say that Preview is my first choice >with respect to Adobe Acrobat for PDF viewing. >It also opens jpgs, tiffs, etc. It even >correctly displays multi-layer Photoshop files. > >Also, under File --> Export you can convert files >to other formats. Thus Previw also takes on >the role of Graphic Converter and other >programs that you use to change from one >format to another. > >Cheers, > >Paul > > >p.s. hintoid: click once on a file you want >to open, go to the top finder menu, and choose >File --> Open With --> Preview (2.1.0). If >you hold down the option key, you will get >"Always Open With". > > From wvacca@mail.arc.nasa.gov Sat Jan 10 14:54:29 2004 Received: from pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov (pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.31.42]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0AMsTH03034 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.102.125.66] ([128.102.125.66] verified) by pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 6281294 for macusers@astron.Berkeley.edu; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:54:24 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Bill Vacca Subject: Panther and Fans Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:54:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-Length: 288 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 205 I've just upgraded to Panther (10.3.2) on my Mac PowerBook G4, without too much of a problem. But I've noticed that the fan seems to run almost constantly now - which it didn't when running Jaguar. Has anyone else noticed this? And if so, is there a fix to control the fan? - Bill From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 09:55:08 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.182] (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0CHt7H13089; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:55:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8B30186E-4528-11D8-BB5D-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: Re: Panther and Fans Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:55:44 -0800 To: Bill Vacca X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-Length: 645 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 206 I haven't noticed any change in the fan. Maybe you have to reset the PMU? However, I found out that my Epson USB printer would not receive print commands after the Panther upgrade. Fortunately, someone posted a fix for this: http://www.allosx.com/1067395661/index_html Cheers, Paul On Jan 10, 2004, at 2:54 PM, Bill Vacca wrote: > > I've just upgraded to Panther (10.3.2) on my Mac PowerBook G4, without > too much of > a problem. But I've noticed that the fan seems to run almost > constantly now - which it > didn't when running Jaguar. Has anyone else noticed this? And if so, > is there a fix to > control the fan? > > - Bill > From wvacca@mail.arc.nasa.gov Mon Jan 12 10:02:46 2004 Received: from pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov (pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.31.42]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0CI2jH13521 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:02:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.102.125.66] ([128.102.125.66] verified) by pony2pub.arc.nasa.gov (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 6310155 for macusers@astron.Berkeley.edu; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:02:41 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Message-Id: <8478D17C-4529-11D8-A0EA-000A95782B00@mail.arc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--1013401522 From: Bill Vacca Subject: Panther and Fans Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:02:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-Length: 5528 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 207 --Apple-Mail-4--1013401522 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Paul, I've checked out a couple of Mac sites and many people are reporting=20 the same problem with Panther that I have found - the fans run almost constantly on some=20= machines. I'm not sure what you mean by "resetting the PMU" or how to do it. Note the following Panther bug reported below. - Bill Readers are encountering various problems with permissions in Panther,=20= and we've seen some others. For example, a Finder Get Info permission=20 pane offers an option to Apply to Enclosed Items, but this doesn't work=20= when we try it. We also confirmed the following behavior, reported by=20 Erick Wong as a bug to Apple: =A0=A0=A0=A0The Finder in Mac OS X 10.3 (tested with 10.3.2) contains a = serious=20 bug with respect to symbolic links which could lead to inadvertent data=20= loss by users with administrative access. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The problem appears to lie in the new authentication = code in=20 Panther Finder which allows privileged file operations to be carried=20 out with the appropriate password. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0To reproduce it, use the Terminal command line to = first create a=20 folder which owned by root and writable only to root. Then create a=20 symbolic link within that folder, to any file (preferably one that is=20 unimportant). Sample session: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% cd ~/Desktop =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% mkdir foodir ; cd foodir =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% touch foo =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% ln -s foo bar =A0=A0=A0=A0Now navigate to the newly-created folder from the Finder, = and drag=20 the symbolic link (which appears to the Finder as an alias) to the=20 Trash, authenticating as necessary. A moment later, we see that the=20 symbolic link is back to where it started, and the file in the Trash is=20= actually the TARGET of the link! =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The severity of this bug is exacerbated by the fact = that many of=20 the symbolic links in an OS X installation exist in privileged=20 directories and link to critical system files. I personally discovered=20= the problem while going through the archived system of a machine I=20 recently upgraded to Panther using "Archive & Install". In the archived=20= copy of /usr/sbin there is a symbolic link to AppleFileServer in=20 /System/Library/CoreServices. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Since the symbolic link uses an absolute pathname, the = old link=20 actually points to the WORKING executable in Panther. If I had not had=20= the fortune of noticing the strange behaviour of the link reappearing=20 after I trashed it, I would never have noticed that AppleFileServer had=20= been moved to the Trash before emptying it!! --Apple-Mail-4--1013401522 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Paul, I've checked out a couple of Mac sites and many people are reporting the same problem with Panther that I have found - the fans run almost constantly on some machines. I'm not sure what you mean by "resetting the PMU" or how to do it. Note the following Panther bug reported below. - Bill PalatinoReaders are encountering various problems with permissions in Panther, and we've seen some others. For example, a Finder Get Info permission pane offers an option to Apply to Enclosed Items, but this doesn't work when we try it. We also confirmed the following behavior, reported by Erick Wong as a bug to Apple: =A0=A0=A0=A0The Finder in Mac OS X 10.3 (tested with 10.3.2) contains a serious bug with respect to symbolic links which could lead to inadvertent data loss by users with administrative access. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The problem appears to lie in the new authentication = code in Panther Finder which allows privileged file operations to be carried out with the appropriate password. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0To reproduce it, use the Terminal command line to = first create a folder which owned by root and writable only to root. Then create a symbolic link within that folder, to any file (preferably one that is unimportant). Sample session: =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% cd ~/Desktop =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% mkdir foodir ; cd foodir =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% touch foo =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0% ln -s foo bar=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0Now navigate to the newly-created folder from the Finder, = and drag the symbolic link (which appears to the Finder as an alias) to the Trash, authenticating as necessary. A moment later, we see that the symbolic link is back to where it started, and the file in the Trash is actually the TARGET of the link! =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The severity of this bug is exacerbated by the fact = that many of the symbolic links in an OS X installation exist in privileged directories and link to critical system files. I personally discovered the problem while going through the archived system of a machine I recently upgraded to Panther using "Archive & Install". In the archived copy of /usr/sbin there is a symbolic link to AppleFileServer in /System/Library/CoreServices. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Since the symbolic link uses an absolute pathname, the = old link actually points to the WORKING executable in Panther. If I had not had the fortune of noticing the strange behaviour of the link reappearing after I trashed it, I would never have noticed that AppleFileServer had been moved to the Trash before emptying it!!=20 = --Apple-Mail-4--1013401522-- From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 13:11:22 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0CLBLH21006 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:11:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401122111.i0CLBLH21006@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Re: Equations in Keynote To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: OTItHS3w4mdzFd8NUrJLpg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1099 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 208 Here it is: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/math_science/latexequationeditor.html I haven't been able to change the font, partly because some of them cost $$$. Check out the FAQ in the Help. Well, I am very happy with just the default font. Just a reminder, this program supports drag-and-drop so it works with both Keynote and TextEdit. Have fun, Vivien >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:59:38 -0800 >To: Vivien Chen >From: Jonathan Arons >Subject: Re: Equations in Keynote >Cc: Jonathan Arons > >Vivien: > >Where on Apple's website? I can't find it. > >Jon > >>I just found a freeware that can do equations very well with Keynote. >>It's called "LaTeX Equation Editor" and can be found on the Apple website. >>It makes beautiful equations and supports drag-and-drop even with Keynote. >>The font and color can be customized and the pdf can be rescaled inside >>Keynote. Well, I guess it's time to dump Equation Service (which really >>doesn't work with Keynote at all). >> >>Vivien > From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 13:11:22 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0CLBLH21006 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:11:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401122111.i0CLBLH21006@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:11:20 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Re: Equations in Keynote To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: OTItHS3w4mdzFd8NUrJLpg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1099 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 209 Here it is: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/math_science/latexequationeditor.html I haven't been able to change the font, partly because some of them cost $$$. Check out the FAQ in the Help. Well, I am very happy with just the default font. Just a reminder, this program supports drag-and-drop so it works with both Keynote and TextEdit. Have fun, Vivien >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:59:38 -0800 >To: Vivien Chen >From: Jonathan Arons >Subject: Re: Equations in Keynote >Cc: Jonathan Arons > >Vivien: > >Where on Apple's website? I can't find it. > >Jon > >>I just found a freeware that can do equations very well with Keynote. >>It's called "LaTeX Equation Editor" and can be found on the Apple website. >>It makes beautiful equations and supports drag-and-drop even with Keynote. >>The font and color can be customized and the pdf can be rescaled inside >>Keynote. Well, I guess it's time to dump Equation Service (which really >>doesn't work with Keynote at all). >> >>Vivien > From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 14:43:23 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.204] (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0CMhNH25392 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:43:23 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers From: Franck Marchis Subject: Duplex on p544??? Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:45:07 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-Length: 542 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 210 Hello Did someone manage to priont in duplex on p544. I activated the duplex in the "Installable options" but it still does not work. Did I miss something? Happy New Year! F. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From CalAgenda-TechSupport@banter.berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 14:34:45 2004 Received: from banter.berkeley.edu (banter.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.132.52]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0CMYjH25115 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from banter.berkeley.EDU (169.229.132.52) by banter.berkeley.edu with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1.3); Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:34:25 -0800 Received: from Banter.Berkeley.EDU by banter.berkeley.EDU with POP3; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:32:30 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mmugler@banter.berkeley.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040112135124.01c57ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <200401082254.i08MsmMt002491@socrates.Berkeley.EDU> <5B973270-4240-11D8-9951-0003937E1A4A@uclink.berkeley.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20040112102246.01cda998@haas.berkeley.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20040112135124.01c57ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-mailer: Eudora 6.0 Macintosh Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:28:40 -0800 To: "CalAgenda Technical Support" From: Mimi Mugler Subject: Re: [CalAgenda TechSupport] Avantgenda Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reply-To: "CalAgenda Technical Support" Sender: Precedence: Bulk List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.7 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Unsubscribe: Content-Length: 645 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 211 The CalAgenda team is aware of the problem, and is working on it. Sorry for the inconvenience! Mimi >At 10:23 AM 1/12/2004, you wrote: >>I am having problems accessing CalAgenda Calendars from Avantgenda. >> >>---Mike Matthews > >At 1:52 p.m., that is still the case. > > > >Jon Johnsen >Information Systems Office >School of Public Health, UC Berkeley >510 643.4357 > ************************************************************************ This message was sent to mailto:CalAgenda-TechSupport@Banter.Berkeley.EDU, the mailing list for CalAgenda technical support. ************************************************************************ From CalAgenda-TechSupport@banter.berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 14:44:42 2004 Received: from banter.berkeley.edu (banter.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.132.52]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0CMigH25417 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from banter.berkeley.EDU (169.229.132.52) by banter.berkeley.edu with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.1.3); Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:44:25 -0800 Received: from Banter.Berkeley.EDU by banter.berkeley.EDU with POP3; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:42:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.2.20040112102246.01cda998@haas.berkeley.edu> References: <200401082254.i08MsmMt002491@socrates.Berkeley.EDU> <5B973270-4240-11D8-9951-0003937E1A4A@uclink.berkeley.edu> <6.0.1.1.2.20040112102246.01cda998@haas.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9DE5CCFC-454F-11D8-B6B5-0003937E1A4A@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff McCullough Subject: Re: [CalAgenda TechSupport] Avantgenda Problems Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:35:26 -0800 To: "CalAgenda Technical Support" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Reply-To: "CalAgenda Technical Support" Sender: Precedence: Bulk List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.7 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Unsubscribe: Content-Length: 967 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 212 We just noticed as well that viewing of calagenda accounts from avantgenda is down again. I'll need to take the avantgenda down to repair it. Do you want me to do it now or after 5 PM? The repairs will probably take about 45 minutes. Thanks, Jeff On Jan 12, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Mike Matthews wrote: > I am having problems accessing CalAgenda Calendars from Avantgenda. > > ---Mike Matthews > > > *********************************************************************** > * > This message was sent to > mailto:CalAgenda-TechSupport@Banter.Berkeley.EDU, > the mailing list for CalAgenda technical support. > *********************************************************************** > * ************************************************************************ This message was sent to mailto:CalAgenda-TechSupport@Banter.Berkeley.EDU, the mailing list for CalAgenda technical support. ************************************************************************ From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 16:01:56 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.182] (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0D01tH28680 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:01:55 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: opening all pdf files with preview Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:02:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-Length: 416 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 213 By the way, as Franck Marchis just taught me, if you want all .pdf files to open in Preview instead of Acrobat, what you do is choose a single .pdf file by clicking on it once, choose the menu item File --> Get info, then under "Open with:" choose Preview, then hit the button that says "Change all..." Of course this technique generally works to choose the default program that opens a specific file type. Paul From novak@ucolick.org Mon Jan 12 16:07:58 2004 Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (dionysus.ucolick.org [128.114.22.17]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0D07wH28872 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:07:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0D07sgC005123 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:07:54 -0800 Received: from localhost (novak@localhost) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i0D07ss0005119 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:07:54 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: dionysus.ucolick.org: novak owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:07:54 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Novak To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: mapping caps lock to the In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1233 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 214 I was told that the problem is with the ADB (as opposed to USB) keyboards, which handle the caps lock key differently from other keys. The key press and release are one event rather than two, which makes it hard to make the caps lock key into a "state" key like control. I had given up hope that this could be achieved gracefully, but this guy claims to have done it. Cool, I'll check it out. Anyway, if anyone is unhappy with both this and uControl, another program to do this is DoubleCommand, http://doublecommand.sourceforge.net/ I haven't tried it myself, though. Also, I humbly direct you to my little page of tips and tricks: http://www.ucolick.org/~novak/hints.html Mostly, I maintain this for myself so that I can remember how I fixed a problem when I want to do it again. But you may find bits and pieces of it useful. There are several things about OSX. Greg On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, John Johnson wrote: > I have been using uControl to swap and but I found it > to be sticky. About 30% of the time it became ctrl-lock because the > up-stroke of the key wasn't read properly. Here is a much better fix: > > http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20031102032521826 > > -JohnJohn > From johnjohn@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Jan 12 16:43:36 2004 Received: from cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (cepheus [128.32.92.198]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0D0hZH00459 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (johnjohn@localhost) by cepheus.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0D0hXD05142 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:43:33 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: cepheus.Berkeley.EDU: johnjohn owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:43:33 -0800 (PST) From: John Johnson X-X-Sender: johnjohn@cepheus To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: mini ipod Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 273 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 215 The Mini iPod is here! 4 Gigs and 1/3 the size of the regular iPod. Plus you can get a green one! http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/ _____________________________________________________________________ JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Jan 13 08:03:05 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0DG34H19248; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0DG30V3025553; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0DG2xMQ015938; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i0DG2xGo015934; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:02:59 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:02:59 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: John Johnson cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: mini ipod In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1045 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 216 But for $50 more you get 11 more GB in a regular iPod... I've heard people around the SIMS department here say that it's not all that much smaller... best, Joe On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, John Johnson wrote: > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:43:33 -0800 (PST) > From: John Johnson > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: mini ipod > > The Mini iPod is here! 4 Gigs and 1/3 the size of the regular iPod. > Plus you can get a green one! > > http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/ > > _____________________________________________________________________ > JohnJohn UC Berkeley Astronomy http://astron.berkeley.edu/~johnjohn > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "The potency of cheap wine and cheap music should never be underestimated." --Cole Porter, as quoted by John Nova Lomax in: http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2004-01-08/racket.html/1/index.html From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Jan 13 08:40:43 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0DGegH20321 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0DGebV3029630 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0DGebMQ021327 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i0DGeblW021322 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:40:37 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:40:37 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: panther fixes touchpad bug... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 548 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 217 I just noticed that installing panther fixed the bug where the touchpad wouldn't be disabled when an external mouse was plugged in... too cool. Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "The potency of cheap wine and cheap music should never be underestimated." --Cole Porter, as quoted by John Nova Lomax in: http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2004-01-08/racket.html/1/index.html From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Jan 13 09:30:26 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0DHUPH22106 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0DHUKV3007126; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0DHUKMQ022234; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i0DHUKBf022225; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:30:20 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 09:30:20 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: Bill Vacca cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Panther and Fans In-Reply-To: <8478D17C-4529-11D8-A0EA-000A95782B00@mail.arc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by astron.Berkeley.EDU id i0DHUPH22106 Content-Length: 3197 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 218 If you've got a recent powerbook... resetting the PMU http://sims.berkeley.edu/~jhall/nqb/archives/000092.html On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Bill Vacca wrote: > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:02:42 -0800 > From: Bill Vacca > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: Panther and Fans > > Paul, > > I've checked out a couple of Mac sites and many people are reporting > the same problem > with Panther that I have found - the fans run almost constantly on some > machines. > > I'm not sure what you mean by "resetting the PMU" or how to do it. > > Note the following Panther bug reported below. > > - Bill > > Readers are encountering various problems with permissions in Panther, > and we've seen some others. For example, a Finder Get Info permission > pane offers an option to Apply to Enclosed Items, but this doesn't work > when we try it. We also confirmed the following behavior, reported by > Erick Wong as a bug to Apple: > >     The Finder in Mac OS X 10.3 (tested with 10.3.2) contains a serious > bug with respect to symbolic links which could lead to inadvertent data > loss by users with administrative access. >       The problem appears to lie in the new authentication code in > Panther Finder which allows privileged file operations to be carried > out with the appropriate password. >       To reproduce it, use the Terminal command line to first create a > folder which owned by root and writable only to root. Then create a > symbolic link within that folder, to any file (preferably one that is > unimportant). Sample session: > >         % cd ~/Desktop >         % mkdir foodir ; cd foodir >         % touch foo >         % ln -s foo bar > >     Now navigate to the newly-created folder from the Finder, and drag > the symbolic link (which appears to the Finder as an alias) to the > Trash, authenticating as necessary. A moment later, we see that the > symbolic link is back to where it started, and the file in the Trash is > actually the TARGET of the link! >       The severity of this bug is exacerbated by the fact that many of > the symbolic links in an OS X installation exist in privileged > directories and link to critical system files. I personally discovered > the problem while going through the archived system of a machine I > recently upgraded to Panther using "Archive & Install". In the archived > copy of /usr/sbin there is a symbolic link to AppleFileServer in > /System/Library/CoreServices. >       Since the symbolic link uses an absolute pathname, the old link > actually points to the WORKING executable in Panther. If I had not had > the fortune of noticing the strange behaviour of the link reappearing > after I trashed it, I would never have noticed that AppleFileServer had > been moved to the Trash before emptying it!! > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "The potency of cheap wine and cheap music should never be underestimated." --Cole Porter, as quoted by John Nova Lomax in: http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2004-01-08/racket.html/1/index.html From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jan 14 15:05:32 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0EN5VH20044 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:05:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401142305.i0EN5VH20044@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 15:05:30 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: crop image with Preview To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: WE1r6P9oFR+VEO/6oASk2Q== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 695 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 219 I just think this tip might be useful for some of you. Preview comes with a "Crop Image" tool but it appears not letting you cut the selected region in a pdf file from ADS. There are ways to get around with this problem. If you want the image to go into Keynote or TextEdit, just select the image and then Flower-C (to copy), Flower-V (to paste). If you need the image saved as a separate pdf, start with selecting the image and then Flower-C. Now the image has been copied to the Clipboard, you can see it in the Preview by selecting "New From Clipboard" in the "File" menu or use the hot key, Flower-N. Finally, you can use "Save As" to generate a new pdf. Have fun, Vivien From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jan 15 10:49:04 2004 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0FIn2H18378; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:49:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:49:02 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: noise@celestial.Berkeley.EDU cc: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU, linuxusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU, windowsusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Very useful book mark management/sharing tool Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 823 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 220 http://del.icio.us Register and try it out. You can drag and drop the "post to del.icio.us" link to your bookmarks tool bar (this works in netscape/ie/safari/camino/mozilla). Then, when you're on a page that you want to submit to the site (you can use it to handle all of your bookmarks if you like...), you click on the toolbar link(button) you've created which immediately takes you to a form to add some extra info like special tags that you can create at random (such as "Astronomy" or "Bush" or "Hubble-Porn"). The community might get over run by spammers, but so far, is extremely useful. - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jan 22 08:37:56 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0MGbtD12244 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:37:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401221637.i0MGbtD12244@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:37:56 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Volume is Journaled To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: RqBixnj1stQMRFN0LUV3eg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 390 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 221 Before upgrading to Panther, every now and then I would hold down Flower+S during startup for a single user boot, and then run fsck -y to check the system. Now after the Panther upgrade I get the following: fsck_hfs: Volume is journaled. No checking performed. fsck_hfs: Use the -f option to force checking. Does anyone know what this means? Shall force checking? Thanks, Paul From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jan 22 10:10:38 2004 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0MI9fD15610; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:09:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:09:42 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: paul kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Volume is Journaled In-Reply-To: <200401221637.i0MGbtD12244@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: References: <200401221637.i0MGbtD12244@astron.Berkeley.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2156 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 222 Short answer: Journaling is good food. Long answer: Journaled filesystems operate in a way that circumvents the need for file system checking (fsck). As the system is operating, changes to the file system are logged or journaled. This journal keeps a record of known good states for the file system and reduces the chances of having a corrupted filesystem due to inconsistent filesystem metadata. From the feline's mouth: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107249 ... With journaling turned on, the file system logs transactions as they occur. If the server fails in the middle of an operation, the file system can "replay" the information in its log and complete the operation when the server restarts. Although you may experience loss of user data that was buffered at the time of the failure, the file system is returned to a consistent state. In addition, restarting the computer is much faster. Always remember to back up your data as frequently as necessary. ... Other file systems that are fully journaled: XFS - SGI IRIX/Linux (http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/) JFS - IBM AIX/Linux (http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/jfs/) Reiserfs - Linux (http://www.namesys.com/) Ext3FS - RedHat Linux (http://www.redhat.com/support/wpapers/redhat/ext3/) Not fully journaled: NTFS - Microsoft Windows XP/2000/NT4 Also see: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/J/journaled_file_system.html http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue55/florido.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, paul kalas wrote: > Before upgrading to Panther, every now and then > I would hold down Flower+S during startup for a single user > boot, and then run fsck -y to check the system. > > Now after the Panther upgrade I get the following: > > fsck_hfs: Volume is journaled. No checking performed. > fsck_hfs: Use the -f option to force checking. > > Does anyone know what this means? Shall force checking? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Jan 22 10:16:25 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0MIGOD15971; Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:16:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401221816.i0MIGOD15971@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:16:25 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: Volume is Journaled To: colby@astron.berkeley.edu Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ddDQ2lcQxUAaaeT4sM01Dw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 185 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 223 Hi Colby, Thanks. Also, the following document explains journaling with respect to the fsck command that I was familiar with: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107250 From jrg@uclink.berkeley.edu Tue Jan 27 07:44:15 2004 Received: from calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RFiFD23357 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [68.120.130.164] (account jrg@calmail.berkeley.edu HELO uclink.berkeley.edu) by calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 2613858 for macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:44:11 -0800 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 07:44:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Subject: library proxy From: James Graham To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by astron.Berkeley.EDU id i0RFiFD23357 Content-Length: 682 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 224 Has any one who uses the library proxy service with Safari run into the following problem recently? Message from CalNet Proxy Server Authentication Module The time is:     Tue Jan 27 07:41:00 2004 Request not permitted by configuration file: http://google.com/ The proxy service appears to prohibit connection to any service, e.g., google.com here, that is not a library subscription. The only work around I have found is to turn off and on the proxy tab on preferences. This mean you need to type in your Calnet ID any time you wan to visit a journal article. The first time this happened was over the weekend. Previously, there were no problems. - James From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jan 27 08:41:40 2004 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RGfdD25305; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:41:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: James Graham cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: library proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by astron.Berkeley.EDU id i0RGfdD25305 Content-Length: 1359 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 225 I just tried using the ucb lib proxy with mozilla 1.5, and safari 1.1.1 and had no problems accessing the OED/Quotation Lexis-Nexis via the proxy and google.com/cnn.com/news.bbc.co.uk simultaneously... Mac OS X 10.3.2 It does appear that the calnet id stuff was freshly inserted, but I use it so sporadically, that I'm unsure what changes have happened at www.lib.berkeley.edu - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, James Graham wrote: > Has any one who uses the library proxy service with Safari run into the > following problem recently? > > > Message from CalNet Proxy Server Authentication Module > > The time is:     Tue Jan 27 07:41:00 2004 > > Request not permitted by configuration file: http://google.com/ > > > The proxy service appears to prohibit connection to any service, e.g., > google.com here, that is not a library subscription. The only work > around I have found is to turn off and on the proxy tab on preferences. > This mean you need to type in your Calnet ID any time you wan to visit > a journal article. > > The first time this happened was over the weekend. Previously, there > were no problems. > > - James > > > > From saurabh@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jan 27 11:25:27 2004 Received: from mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (mondatta [128.32.92.189]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RJPQD05661; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (saurabh@localhost) by mondatta.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RJPPZ12696; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mondatta.Berkeley.EDU: saurabh owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) From: Saurabh Jha X-X-Sender: saurabh@mondatta To: James Graham cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: library proxy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1096 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 226 On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, James Graham wrote: > Has any one who uses the library proxy service with Safari run into the > following problem recently? > > The first time this happened was over the weekend. Previously, there > were no problems. > This does sound like a problem on their end, but how are you using the proxy? The best way to do it (though I think this may be new in OS X 10.3 Panther) is via the "Automatic Proxy Configuration": In the proxies tab, scroll down and check "Automatic Proxy Configuration", and for the Proxy Configuration File, enter: http://proxy.lib.berkeley.edu:7777/proxy.pac Whenever Safari (or any browser, theoretically) starts up, it will access this file, which contains a list of domains that will be "behind" the proxy -- everything else will go directly. It's not perfect, for instance, since uchicago.edu hosts journals, it's in the proxy list, but there are a lot of sites in that domain that aren't the journals but it still asks you to authenticate. You can actually override specific hosts and domains using the "Bypass proxy settings" box. -saurabh From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jan 27 13:32:30 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0RLWSD11933 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:32:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401272132.i0RLWSD11933@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:32:29 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: iTunes music sharing To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: jGARvkIV3A9p2sZmN0zamw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 315 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 227 As I loaded iTunes today, I noticed that under "Shared Music" I have "Joshua Goldston's Music" and "Karin's Music". However, clicking on either gives me the "Loading ...Music" status bar, and that's it. No music. I also enabled sharing of my music, but that didn't change it. No music. Where's the music? From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jan 27 13:47:24 2004 Received: from cusp.Berkeley.EDU (cusp [128.32.92.53]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RLlMD12728; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by cusp.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RLlOE04145; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: cusp.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@cusp To: paul kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: iTunes music sharing In-Reply-To: <200401272132.i0RLWSD11933@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: References: <200401272132.i0RLWSD11933@astron.Berkeley.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 461 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 228 That odd, I can get Josh's music (and mine :-) Not sure what the problem is. Karin On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, paul kalas wrote: > As I loaded iTunes today, I noticed > that under "Shared Music" I have > "Joshua Goldston's Music" and "Karin's Music". > > However, clicking on either gives me the > "Loading ...Music" status bar, and that's > it. No music. > > I also enabled sharing of my music, but > that didn't change it. No music. > > Where's the music? > > From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Jan 27 14:16:12 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RMGBD14072; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0RMG7jN001653; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:16:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0RMG6LE027106; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i0RMG6bA027101; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:16:06 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:16:05 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: paul kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: iTunes music sharing In-Reply-To: <200401272132.i0RLWSD11933@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1062 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 229 It's usually apple firewall problems... in this case, Paul's firewall is probably not allowing him to see shared music... Joe On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, paul kalas wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:32:29 -0800 (PST) > From: paul kalas > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: iTunes music sharing > > As I loaded iTunes today, I noticed > that under "Shared Music" I have > "Joshua Goldston's Music" and "Karin's Music". > > However, clicking on either gives me the > "Loading ...Music" status bar, and that's > it. No music. > > I also enabled sharing of my music, but > that didn't change it. No music. > > Where's the music? > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "The potency of cheap wine and cheap music should never be underestimated." --Cole Porter, as quoted by John Nova Lomax in: http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2004-01-08/racket.html/1/index.html From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jan 27 14:22:10 2004 Received: from [192.168.1.198] (mercury [128.32.92.133]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0RMM9D14400 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:22:09 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) In-Reply-To: References: <200401272132.i0RLWSD11933@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7596B682-5117-11D8-A263-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Franck Marchis Subject: Re: iTunes music sharing Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:23:40 -0800 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) Content-Length: 1134 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 230 I have Josh and Karin musix too... it works today. it was not working yesterday and two days ago. I don't know why. The sharing system has a very weird behavior. I put my Frenchy-weirdy musix available for you... Cheers F. On Jan 27, 2004, at 1:47 PM, Karin Sandstrom wrote: > That odd, I can get Josh's music (and mine :-) Not sure what the > problem > is. > > Karin > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, paul kalas wrote: > >> As I loaded iTunes today, I noticed >> that under "Shared Music" I have >> "Joshua Goldston's Music" and "Karin's Music". >> >> However, clicking on either gives me the >> "Loading ...Music" status bar, and that's >> it. No music. >> >> I also enabled sharing of my music, but >> that didn't change it. No music. >> >> Where's the music? >> >> > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Jan 27 14:29:37 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i0RMTZD14966 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:29:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200401272229.i0RMTZD14966@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:29:37 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: iTunes music sharing To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ukWSZWzGevKSrKn3v2gRbw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 404 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 231 I upgraded to iTunes 4.2. Also, under the System Preferences --> Sharing >> Firewall you have to enable the iTunes sharing under port 3689. I still can't load the other iTunes libraries, even though I just saw Franck's. I enabled sharing of my iTunes "Campbell Hall Mix" in case anyone can see it. My best guess is that restarting the computer might fix things, but I'm not about to that now. Paul From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jan 28 00:59:15 2004 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0S8xED04657; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0S8xEB03518; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:59:14 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:59:14 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@meso To: Franck Marchis cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: iTunes music sharing In-Reply-To: <7596B682-5117-11D8-A263-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <200401272132.i0RLWSD11933@astron.Berkeley.EDU> <7596B682-5117-11D8-A263-000393B61200@astron.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1707 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 232 My music may be in and out b/c it's on a separate drive, which is sometimes at Campbell and sometimes at home. I am currently using the other 1/2 of my iPod to store IDL .sav files. Hilarious. -Josh On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Franck Marchis wrote: > I have Josh and Karin musix too... it works today. it was not working > yesterday and two days ago. I don't know why. The sharing system has a > very weird behavior. > I put my Frenchy-weirdy musix available for you... > Cheers > F. > > On Jan 27, 2004, at 1:47 PM, Karin Sandstrom wrote: > > > That odd, I can get Josh's music (and mine :-) Not sure what the > > problem > > is. > > > > Karin > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, paul kalas wrote: > > > >> As I loaded iTunes today, I noticed > >> that under "Shared Music" I have > >> "Joshua Goldston's Music" and "Karin's Music". > >> > >> However, clicking on either gives me the > >> "Loading ...Music" status bar, and that's > >> it. No music. > >> > >> I also enabled sharing of my music, but > >> that didn't change it. No music. > >> > >> Where's the music? > >> > >> > > > > > --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- > Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- > Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- > 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- > --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy ** 753b Campbell Hall ** * Cellular: 510 299 4427 ** Home, CA : 510 547 7567 Office: 510 643 8592 ** Home, NJ : 609 921 1462 ** * * * ** * * * ** From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Feb 2 13:20:57 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i12LKuD25071 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 13:20:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200402022120.i12LKuD25071@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 13:20:55 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: maintain disk health To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: gFPIGmGwTQURqtPUdyJ8HQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 276 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 233 I am just wondering if there are some routine works that need to be done every now and then to keep the hard drive in a good shape. I only know disk utility to repair the disk permissions. (Is there anything like de-fragamentation in Windows?) Any suggestions? Vivien From jrg@uclink.berkeley.edu Tue Feb 3 06:18:58 2004 Received: from calmail-cl.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i13EIvD23152 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 06:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [67.124.48.224] (account jrg@calmail.berkeley.edu HELO uclink.berkeley.edu) by calmail-cl.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 5929809 for macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU; Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:18:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 23:26:24 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Netscape 7.0 From: James Graham To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <45BD2FE2-561A-11D8-AA92-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Content-Length: 677 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 234 I'm one of those dullards who has not yet upgraded to Panther, so I'm stuck with a version of Safari that does not support automatic proxies. The library has decided unilaterally to block proxy requests to non-subscription material. So if you use Safari to look up a paper on ADS and then go to the ApJ or some other journal you have to turn proxies on and off by hand (and type in your calnet id too). I've tried Netscape 7.0.2 which does support automatic proxies. But it is excruciatingly slow (think 386 with 64Mb of RAM) compared to Safari. Is there a better optimized version of Netscape, or is there something I can do to make the performance better? - James From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Feb 3 08:29:35 2004 Received: from [136.152.133.45] (moff-wlan-35.AirBears.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.133.45]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i13GTYD25983; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:29:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <45BD2FE2-561A-11D8-AA92-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <45BD2FE2-561A-11D8-AA92-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <48E6E880-5666-11D8-9CD1-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:30:31 -0800 To: James Graham X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 903 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 235 Internet Explorer? It should be in your Applications Folder. It's probably as fast as Safari, but Evil. Think Sauron and Lord of the Rings. On Feb 2, 2004, at 11:26 PM, James Graham wrote: > I'm one of those dullards who has not yet upgraded to Panther, so I'm > stuck with a version of Safari that does not support automatic > proxies. > > The library has decided unilaterally to block proxy requests to > non-subscription material. So if you use Safari to look up a paper on > ADS and then go to the ApJ or some other journal you have to turn > proxies on and off by hand (and type in your calnet id too). > > I've tried Netscape 7.0.2 which does support automatic proxies. But it > is excruciatingly slow (think 386 with 64Mb of RAM) compared to > Safari. Is there a better optimized version of Netscape, or is there > something I can do to make the performance better? > > - James > From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Feb 3 09:16:00 2004 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i13HFxD28024 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i13HG0v18430 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:16:00 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:15:59 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@meso To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0 In-Reply-To: <45BD2FE2-561A-11D8-AA92-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <45BD2FE2-561A-11D8-AA92-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1073 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 236 I can't say enough good things re: panther. Don't be a hero James. Take the plunge! -Josh On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, James Graham wrote: > I'm one of those dullards who has not yet upgraded to Panther, so I'm > stuck with a version of Safari that does not support automatic proxies. > > The library has decided unilaterally to block proxy requests to > non-subscription material. So if you use Safari to look up a paper on > ADS and then go to the ApJ or some other journal you have to turn > proxies on and off by hand (and type in your calnet id too). > > I've tried Netscape 7.0.2 which does support automatic proxies. But it > is excruciatingly slow (think 386 with 64Mb of RAM) compared to Safari. > Is there a better optimized version of Netscape, or is there something > I can do to make the performance better? > > - James > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy * 753b Campbell Hall** * Cellular: 510 299 4427 * Home, CA: 510 547 7567 Office: 510 643 8592 * Home, NJ: 609 921 1462 ** * * * * * * * ** From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Tue Feb 3 11:05:44 2004 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i13J5hD03478; Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:05:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 11:05:44 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: James Graham cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Netscape 7.0 In-Reply-To: <45BD2FE2-561A-11D8-AA92-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: References: <45BD2FE2-561A-11D8-AA92-000A959B4CE2@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1291 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 237 Camino is another browser based on the mozilla code that is supposedly better (and is targeted) for mac os x. It did seem marginally faster than straight netscape.. http://www.mozilla.org/products/camino/ There's mozilla itself. There's firebird, but it might be too buggy for you: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/ - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, James Graham wrote: > I'm one of those dullards who has not yet upgraded to Panther, so I'm > stuck with a version of Safari that does not support automatic proxies. > > The library has decided unilaterally to block proxy requests to > non-subscription material. So if you use Safari to look up a paper on > ADS and then go to the ApJ or some other journal you have to turn > proxies on and off by hand (and type in your calnet id too). > > I've tried Netscape 7.0.2 which does support automatic proxies. But it > is excruciatingly slow (think 386 with 64Mb of RAM) compared to Safari. > Is there a better optimized version of Netscape, or is there something > I can do to make the performance better? > > - James > From fmarchis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Feb 5 11:27:35 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.204] (cilaos.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.204]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i15JRYD16421 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <56F1AAF0-5811-11D8-BBED-000A959E11BA@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers From: Franck Marchis Subject: Apple repair service - grade A++ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:27:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 1003 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 238 Dear mac users, My laptop suddenly stopped to work last Friday, and, after backuping my hard disk on Monday, I sent it to repair service of Apple via the Apple shop. It just came back to me today, and it is fixed (they even cleaned it and put additional protections on it). They changed an electronic board I guess (p59 DISPLAY CLAMSHELL, SAMSUNG). Apple repair store has a minimum flat rate of 327.33 $ (including 100$ of Labor Charge). it looks expensive but it is fast, efficient, and convenient. Hopefullly you will not need it, but keep it in mind if you have any problems... and backup your data regularly!! :-) Cheers F. --- Franck Marchis --------------------------- Phone: +1 510 6423958 -- Assistant Research Astronomer at University of California -- Department of Astronomy Fax: +1 510 642 3411 -- 601 Campbell Hall fmarchis@astron.berkeley.edu -- --- Berkeley CA 94720 - USA - http://astron.berkeley.edu/~fmarchis -- From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Feb 5 11:44:01 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i15Ji0D17210 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:44:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200402051944.i15Ji0D17210@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: Re: Apple repair service - grade A++ To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 5wCOxpqWJvIXzICzTSDp0w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 362 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 239 Sounds like Apple Care is a good thing to purchase with laptops. My power adapter failed just a few weeks before the 1-yr warranty expired. For something this simple the cost is: $87.50 for the part $85.00 for the labor Note that the labor consisted of the "Genius" at the Apple Store plugging in my old power supply to confirm that it did not work. Paul From novak@ucolick.org Thu Feb 5 12:40:27 2004 Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (dionysus.ucolick.org [128.114.22.17]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i15KeQD19422 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dionysus.ucolick.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i15KeMQw001094 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:40:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (novak@localhost) by dionysus.ucolick.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i15KeMmm001090 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:40:22 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: dionysus.ucolick.org: novak owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:40:22 -0800 (PST) From: Greg Novak To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Apple repair service - grade A++ In-Reply-To: <200402051944.i15Ji0D17210@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1027 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 240 Might as well document my experience: I've also had my power adapter fail, and the LCD display failed _twice_. I've had the iBook for about 14 months. All of this was covered under warrenty or Applecare, and as mentioned before, the repair was fast and hassle-free. The second time the LCD failed, I talked to the repair guy about it and he said that he's seen a lot of LCD failures. Apparently there are threats of a class action lawsuit over this: http://www.macnn.com/news/22601&startNumber=20 http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/unhappy_ibook_owners_threatening_lawsuit.php Greg On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, paul kalas wrote: > Sounds like Apple Care is a good thing > to purchase with laptops. > > My power adapter failed just a few weeks > before the 1-yr warranty expired. For something > this simple the cost is: > > $87.50 for the part > $85.00 for the labor > > Note that the labor consisted of the "Genius" > at the Apple Store plugging in my old power supply > to confirm that it did not work. > > Paul > From karin@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Feb 5 12:54:33 2004 Received: from cusp.Berkeley.EDU (cusp [128.32.92.53]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i15KsWD20210 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:54:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (karin@localhost) by cusp.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i15KsWn14738 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:54:33 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: cusp.Berkeley.EDU: karin owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:54:32 -0800 (PST) From: Karin Sandstrom X-X-Sender: karin@cusp To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: Apple repair service - grade A++ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1353 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 241 Its odd that you guys sent this info today, because part of the casing of my Powerbook just came apart. I'm going to take it in this afternoon. The Applecare is looking like an ok deal after the warranty runs out, I guess. Karin On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Greg Novak wrote: > Might as well document my experience: > > I've also had my power adapter fail, and the LCD display failed _twice_. > I've had the iBook for about 14 months. All of this was covered under > warrenty or Applecare, and as mentioned before, the repair was fast and > hassle-free. > > The second time the LCD failed, I talked to the repair guy about it and he > said that he's seen a lot of LCD failures. Apparently there are threats > of a class action lawsuit over this: > > http://www.macnn.com/news/22601&startNumber=20 > http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/unhappy_ibook_owners_threatening_lawsuit.php > > Greg > > On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, paul kalas wrote: > > > Sounds like Apple Care is a good thing > > to purchase with laptops. > > > > My power adapter failed just a few weeks > > before the 1-yr warranty expired. For something > > this simple the cost is: > > > > $87.50 for the part > > $85.00 for the labor > > > > Note that the labor consisted of the "Genius" > > at the Apple Store plugging in my old power supply > > to confirm that it did not work. > > > > Paul > > > > > From colby@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Mon Feb 9 11:38:12 2004 Received: from celestial.berkeley.edu (celestial [128.32.92.243]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i19JcAD21211; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:38:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:38:11 -0800 (PST) From: James Colby Kraybill To: macusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU cc: windowsusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU, linuxusers@celestial.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Firefox Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 332 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 242 Phoenix 0.6, firebird 0.7, firefox 0.8 Firefox is now available: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Colby --------------------------------------------------------------------- James Colby Kraybill Radio Astronomy Laboratory colby@astro.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley From mwhite@berkeley.edu Tue Feb 10 06:17:24 2004 Received: from calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i1AEHND25943 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [136.152.193.201] ([136.152.193.201] verified) by calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 6822165 for macusers@astron.berkeley.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:17:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0817D439-5BD4-11D8-ACD5-000393AACE0E@berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Martin White Subject: Panther + X Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:18:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) Content-Length: 594 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 243 Hi all, I've just installed Panther on my home machine, and in the process I've "broken" X windows. I understand that Panther comes with X built in, but I've been unable to figure out how to "turn it on". A search of the help for "X", "X11" or "xterm" turns up no entries. Does anyone know how to get X running? Did I need to select anything non-standard during the install? Thanks, Martin. P.S. I would like to use the same disks to install Panther on my laptop and my home machine. Strictly speaking this is a no-no. Do you know if Apple actually checks during registration? From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Feb 10 08:52:43 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.182] (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i1AGqhD29408 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:52:43 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) In-Reply-To: <0817D439-5BD4-11D8-ACD5-000393AACE0E@berkeley.edu> References: <0817D439-5BD4-11D8-ACD5-000393AACE0E@berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Kalas Subject: Re: Panther + X Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 08:53:47 -0800 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 939 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 244 As far as I remember, X11 is a non-standard selection for the Panther install. You need to select it at the beginning of the installation process. To save disk space, you can also de-select many of the language packages that are installed by default. On Feb 10, 2004, at 6:18 AM, Martin White wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just installed Panther on my home machine, and in the process > I've "broken" X windows. I understand that Panther comes with X built > in, > but I've been unable to figure out how to "turn it on". A search of > the > help for "X", "X11" or "xterm" turns up no entries. > > Does anyone know how to get X running? Did I need to select anything > non-standard during the install? > > Thanks, > > Martin. > > P.S. I would like to use the same disks to install Panther on my > laptop and > my home machine. Strictly speaking this is a no-no. Do you know if > Apple actually checks during registration? > From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Thu Feb 12 08:52:34 2004 Received: from [136.152.133.42] (moff-wlan-32.AirBears.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.133.42]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i1CGqWD29409 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:52:32 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <00E6032E-5D7C-11D8-BEBD-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: Macs for Scientists Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:53:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 254 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 245 Here is an article that discusses why scientists are using Macs. Two astronomers were quoted, as well as the Mathematica founder, a biologist, and a geneticist. "Scientists: The latest Mac converts" http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32837.html From jcolbyk@calmail.berkeley.edu Fri Feb 13 10:51:34 2004 Received: from calmail-ma.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i1DIpYD15424 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [68.164.245.153] (account jcolbyk@calmail.berkeley.edu) by calmail-ma.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 751576 for macusers@astro.berkeley.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:51:29 -0800 From: "James Colby Kraybill" Subject: CPU bumps coming... To: macusers@astron.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:51:29 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 554 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 246 http://www.mdronline.com/watch/watch_abstract.asp?Volname=Issue%20%23117&SID=1068&on=T&SourceID=00000377000000000000 or http://csua.org/u/5zx ... Apple has promised to deliver 3GHz G5 systems this summer, implying the arrival of further speedups for the 970FX. That?s an aggressive target, but it should be achievable. The 970FX has the necessary architectural sophistication in its deep pipelines to make this speed possible, and IBM has the necessary technology in its CMOS 10S process. ... Ignore the cruft about who has the fastest... - Colby From colby@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Feb 17 16:27:34 2004 Received: from phoenix.geeklings.net (i.get.stabby.net [209.237.231.207]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i1I0RXD28140 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from astro.berkeley.edu (celestial.berkeley.edu [128.32.92.243]) by phoenix.geeklings.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F797 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:27:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4032B176.6020006@astro.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:27:34 -0800 From: Colby Kraybill Organization: Radio Astronomy Laboratory User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: macusers@astron.berkeley.edu Subject: Presumably some ipod users here Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 65 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 247 http://drewperry.co.uk/index.php?do=iPod&ipod=battery - Colby From hchen@astron.berkeley.edu Mon Jan 12 01:34:15 2004 Received: from meso (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i0C9YEH04257 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:34:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:34:16 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Chen X-X-Sender: hchen@meso To: macusers@astron.berkeley.edu Subject: Equations in Keynote Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 408 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 248 I just found a freeware that can do equations very well with Keynote. It's called "LaTeX Equation Editor" and can be found on the Apple website. It makes beautiful equations and supports drag-and-drop even with Keynote. The font and color can be customized and the pdf can be rescaled inside Keynote. Well, I guess it's time to dump Equation Service (which really doesn't work with Keynote at all). Vivien From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Feb 23 09:02:05 2004 Received: from triscuit (triscuit [128.32.92.58]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i1NH24D14670 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:02:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200402231702.i1NH24D14670@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: paul kalas Reply-To: paul kalas Subject: default browser for mail.app To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 6kKNHN8S3ueKGPm4A4Diug== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 177 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 249 Hi, how do you change the default settings such that when you click on a web link in an e-mail viewed by mail.app, the browser that opens is something other than safari? Paul From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Mon Feb 23 09:19:28 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i1NHJRD15260; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1NHJRuc008979; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i1NHJR7Q014826; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i1NHJQLD014823; Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:19:26 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: paul kalas cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: default browser for mail.app In-Reply-To: <200402231702.i1NH24D14670@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1109 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 250 Curiously, in Panther, the default browser for the whole system is set in the Safari preferences... so, you'll have to open up Safari, then its preferences and change it to the browser of your choice in order to change the default browser for your whole system. Joe PS: Apple is only slightly less evil than Microsoft... On Mon, 23 Feb 2004, paul kalas wrote: > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:02:05 -0800 (PST) > From: paul kalas > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: default browser for mail.app > > Hi, how do you change the default settings > such that when you click on a web link in an > e-mail viewed by mail.app, the browser > that opens is something other than safari? > > Paul > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ Graduate Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons." --Michael Moore (March 2003), while accepting the Oscar for Bowling for Columbine (Best Documentary). From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Mar 3 16:16:13 2004 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i240GBA29898 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i240GBb02958 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:16:11 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:16:11 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@meso To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Tunes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 356 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 251 Many people have asked me where my tunes went. They are back, and better than ever, so share away. Cheers, -Josh * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy * 753b Campbell Hall** * Cellular: 510 299 4427 * Home, CA: 510 547 7567 Office: 510 643 8592 * Home, NJ: 609 921 1462 ** * * * * * * * ** From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Sun Mar 7 15:38:58 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i27NcvA21067 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:38:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200403072338.i27NcvA21067@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:38:56 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Powerbook specials in Scholar's workstation To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: dXv7wq6ZoXQKvoGAGpvlfQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 360 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 252 Just visited the website of the scholar's workstation. They are throwing out a big sales on PowerBooks again. Both 12" and 15" have great prices with 3-year AppleCare and come with a iPod. $_$ Check it out if you are thinking to change the machine. This is a very good deal, I think. I got my PowerBook from them last year on similar sales. Vivien From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Mar 8 09:43:28 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.182] (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i28HhRA13644 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:43:27 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <526491E2-7128-11D8-92F5-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: DVD-R's for Mac Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:45:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 223 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 253 Has anyone found cheap DVD-R's that work reliably with the DVD-writing superdrives on the powerbooks? I've been using Apple's DVD-R's, which have worked extremely well, but the cost is $15 for a five-pack. Thanks. Paul From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Mon Mar 8 10:28:48 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i28ISlA16444 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:28:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200403081828.i28ISlA16444@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: DVD-R's for Mac To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: vwYHzZvFfRKqgyxoguNxmA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 1114 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 254 Hi Paul, My superdrive had a huge problem to write DVD-R's in the beginning. It was only 1 out of 5 with OptoDisc 2X (inkjet printable). I was quite depressed with that. Upgrading to Panther didn't help, either. Then something strange happened and it started to behave. So far it has got 6 out 7 and the failed one was due to overheating after 3 successive burning. Two things have changed: I accidentally crashed the panel above the superdrive with my elbow and I am using a different media: Digital Matrix 1X-4X. Don't know which one help more. The success rate for OptoDisc has also improved after the corner got pressed in. *_*;; You can get one disc from me to try. It seems Digital Matrix work better. I got all my packs from meritline.com. There are a few firmware upgradings for the superdrive on the web (http://superdrive.cynikal.net/). It allows a 2X burning speed and/or region-free. This third-party upgrading (neither Apple nor Panasonic), however, certainly voids the warranty with AppleCare. I haven't tried it since I don't want to void my warranty. Vivien From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Mar 10 09:36:14 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.182] (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2AHaCA17755; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:36:13 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: new computer disk partitioning Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:37:48 -0800 To: Marcy Geoff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 1200 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 255 Hi Geoff, On your new powerbook, before you start installing software, you might consider using Disk Utility (Applications-->Utilities) to separate your 80 GB hard drive into two or three partitions. I have my 60 GB hardrive separated into 20 GB and 40 GB. If you are moving data back and forth through your computer, the disk may become fragmented over time. I keep my system folder, applications, etc. on my 20 GB partition, and then my data folders are on the 40 GB partition. You might also want to make a 4.4 GB partition. This is roughly the capacity of a DVD. If you are planning on backing up data on DVD's, you can dump data into this partition, and when it fills up you know you're ready to burn the DVD and start over with a new set of data. If you partition the hard disk now, you'll have to reinstall the entire operating system on the new partition. You probably need to have the install DVD inserted, you probably have to boot from the DVD (hold down the "c" key while restarting the computer), and then do all the partitioning while running the system software, including the application Disk Utility, from the DVD. Disk Utility is easy to use, and it won't take long. Paul From louis@astron.Berkeley.EDU Wed Mar 10 11:38:41 2004 Received: from slothrop.Berkeley.EDU (slothrop [128.32.92.6]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2AJceA24909 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:38:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (louis@localhost) by slothrop.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2AJcd210489 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:38:39 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: slothrop.Berkeley.EDU: louis owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: Louis-Benoit Desroches X-X-Sender: louis@slothrop To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: hard drive maintenance Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 487 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 256 Hello, Does anybody know if there is a nice and simple way to perform standard hard drive maintenance (such as defragmenting the drive) in Jaguar without buying any special software? Thanks. ================================================================ Louis-Benoit Desroches (510) 643-8591 Graduate Student louis@astro.berkeley.edu Astronomy Department astron.berkeley.edu/~louis University of California, Berkeley 601 Campbell Hall Berkeley, CA 94720-3411 From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Fri Mar 12 13:27:19 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2CLRIA29320 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2CLRIvE011251 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2CLRH0i010549 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i2CLRHTc010545 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:27:17 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:27:17 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Utility for Mac laptops to measure WiFi signal strength Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 688 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 257 FYI... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:24:27 -0800 From: Aron Roberts To: Cc: AirBears Wireless List Subject: [AirBears] Utility for Mac laptops to measure WiFi signal strength AP Grapher is a free ('donationware') Mac OS X tool for measuring WiFi signal strength for Macintosh laptops with Apple's AirPort wireless cards, and perhaps also certain compatible third party cards: http://www.chimoosoft.com/apgrapher.html This tool is said to provide more granular data about signal strength than Apple's standard utilities. FYI. Aron Roberts Workstation Software Support Group From colby@astron.berkeley.edu Thu Mar 18 11:09:24 2004 Received: from calmail-cl.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2IJ9NA19861 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.100.16.243] ([192.100.16.243] verified) by calmail-cl.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 7124622; Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:09:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Colby Kraybill Subject: ipod^3 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:09:14 -0800 To: noise@astron.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 65 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 258 http://66.216.122.95/_content/_reel/_movies/ispec.htm - Colby From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Mar 19 07:52:50 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.182] (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2JFqnA24319 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:52:49 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <76DFE740-79BD-11D8-AD71-000A95687726@astron.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: 10.3.3 update caveats Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:52:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 264 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 259 To answer my own question from a few days ago, here are some issues with 10.3.3 updates: http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20040319014339850 The main point is to disconnect external peripherals and quit all applications before running the update. Paul From blitz@gmc.berkeley.edu Wed Mar 17 14:49:00 2004 Received: from gmc.berkeley.edu (hvc [128.32.92.213]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2HMmsA14518; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:48:54 -0800 (PST) Sender: blitz Message-ID: <4058D5D6.943C5D6D@gmc.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:48:54 -0800 From: leo blitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.19-4GB i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: everyone@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: useful new tool Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 633 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 260 Dear All, There is a relatively new tool at software@berkeley.edu (you can put this in as a browser address), that allows you to access all of the electronic parts of the Berkeley library from home on your pc. If any of you have had problems acessing the ApJ etc. especially articles from the last several years, or Nature, etc. from home, this allows you to access all of the current and archived journals. What the program does is sets up a proxy on your browser that asks for your calnet ID for authentification. I tired it last night and it works just fine and is easy to install. Download the "Library Proxy Setup." Leo From js@astron.berkeley.edu Wed Mar 17 17:37:24 2004 Received: from razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net (razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.248]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2I1bHA21041; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [209.79.44.222] (helo=astro.berkeley.edu) by razorbill.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1B3mTF-0005w9-00; Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:37:17 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:37:27 -0800 Subject: Re: useful new tool Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Cc: everyone@astron.Berkeley.EDU To: leo blitz From: jon swift In-Reply-To: <4058D5D6.943C5D6D@gmc.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 39a3b9e8620e180b1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79beb61ee07ef99ef1f39271f5bfa1a02a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Content-Length: 829 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 261 thanks leo- i think you mean software.berkeley.edu. just downloaded it onto my mac and it works fine. -jon On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 02:48 PM, leo blitz wrote: > Dear All, > > There is a relatively new tool at software@berkeley.edu (you can put > this in as a browser address), that allows you to access all of the > electronic parts of the Berkeley library from home on your pc. If any > of you have had problems acessing the ApJ etc. especially articles from > the last several years, or Nature, etc. from home, this allows you to > access all of the current and archived journals. What the program does > is sets up a proxy on your browser that asks for your calnet ID for > authentification. I tired it last night and it works just fine and is > easy to install. Download the "Library Proxy Setup." > > Leo > From kalas@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Mar 16 16:21:09 2004 Received: from [128.32.92.182] (hoku1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.92.182]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2H0L8A03859 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:21:08 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU From: Paul Kalas Subject: 10.3.3?? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:21:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 397 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 262 Has anyone upgraded to 10.3.3 and experienced any problems? Benefits? By the way, I accidentally discovered today that by pressing flower+tab together, no matter what application you're in at the time, brings up a dock-like window in the middle of the screen that shows your open applications. If you hit the tab key some more, or hit the arrow keys, you can cycle through the applications. From colby@astron.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 16 16:26:36 2004 Received: from calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2H0QZA04171 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.100.16.245] ([192.100.16.245] verified) by calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 5992735 for macusers@astro.berkeley.edu; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:26:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Colby Kraybill Subject: Re: 10.3.3?? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:26:30 -0800 To: macusers@astron.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 757 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 263 hee. Once you have hit the apple+tab key, if you hold down the apple key, you can press the ` key right above the tab and move backwards in that list of applications. Also, you hit the apple+` without having that list up, it will switch between windows within an application. - Colby On Mar 16, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Paul Kalas wrote: > Has anyone upgraded to 10.3.3 and experienced > any problems? Benefits? > > By the way, I accidentally discovered today that > by pressing flower+tab together, no matter what > application you're in at the time, brings up a > dock-like window in the middle of the screen > that shows your open applications. If you > hit the tab key some more, or hit the arrow keys, > you can cycle through the applications. > > > From colby@astron.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 16 16:58:12 2004 Received: from calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (mailfarm.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.61.106]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2H0wBA05130 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.100.16.245] ([192.100.16.245] verified) by calmail-cr.berkeley.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 6001873 for macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:58:07 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v612) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <26A3A6EC-77AE-11D8-B8B6-000A95C8FB56@astro.berkeley.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Colby Kraybill Subject: Re: 10.3.3?? Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:58:06 -0800 To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.612) Content-Length: 988 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 264 I forwarded the 10.3.3 question to another osx list of very trusted friends. Here are technical details of what's in the update: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25711 And some list responses: "startup time seems faster" "yeah, I did, they finally fixed their mail.app spam bug, where mail.app would die if you marked a messages as spam or notspam." There'll probably be lots more responses as your message and my forwarding of the question alerted many to the existence of the update... - Colby On Mar 16, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Paul Kalas wrote: > Has anyone upgraded to 10.3.3 and experienced > any problems? Benefits? > > By the way, I accidentally discovered today that > by pressing flower+tab together, no matter what > application you're in at the time, brings up a > dock-like window in the middle of the screen > that shows your open applications. If you > hit the tab key some more, or hit the arrow keys, > you can cycle through the applications. > > > From goldston@astron.Berkeley.EDU Tue Mar 16 11:34:29 2004 Received: from meso.Berkeley.EDU (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2GJYSA20263 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (goldston@localhost) by meso.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2GJYTG05713 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:34:29 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: meso.Berkeley.EDU: goldston owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:34:29 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Goldston X-X-Sender: goldston@meso To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: to EPS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 392 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 265 Hello all, Does anyone know a (free) way to get from pdf or ps easily to EPS on a Mac? What do people do when they want to create eps files? -Josh * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * * **Berkeley Astronomy * 753b Campbell Hall** * Cellular: 510 299 4427 * Home, CA: 510 547 7567 Office: 510 643 8592 * Home, NJ: 609 921 1462 ** * * * * * * * ** From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 16 11:38:09 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2GJc7A20481; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2GJc8iC029227; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2GJc80i010205; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i2GJc7eB010202; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:38:07 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:38:07 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: Josh Goldston cc: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: to EPS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1117 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 266 ImageMagick... that is, at the command-line, type: mogrify -format eps joshs_dorky_file.ps Or pdf or whatever... Joe On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Josh Goldston wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:34:29 -0800 (PST) > From: Josh Goldston > To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU > Subject: to EPS > > Hello all, > > Does anyone know a (free) way to get from pdf or ps easily to EPS > on a Mac? What do people do when they want to create eps files? > > -Josh > > * * * **Joshua E Goldston** * * * > * **Berkeley Astronomy * 753b Campbell Hall** * > Cellular: 510 299 4427 * Home, CA: 510 547 7567 > Office: 510 643 8592 * Home, NJ: 609 921 1462 > ** * * * * * * * ** > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Lorenzo Hall http://pobox.com/~joehall/ SIMS PhD Student blog: http://pobox.com/~joehall/nqb/ "We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons." --Michael Moore (March 2003), while accepting the Oscar for Bowling for Columbine (Best Documentary). From hchen@astron.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 23 22:19:20 2004 Received: from meso (meso [128.32.92.226]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2O6JIA10115 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:19:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 22:19:19 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Chen X-X-Sender: hchen@meso To: macusers@astron.berkeley.edu Subject: Klear Screen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 454 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 267 I just bought this LCD cleaner from the Mac store on Shuttuck. It did an amazing job to completely restore the display surface from the keyboard marks (you know, those terrible scratches from the tips of the keyboard). If you have been bothered by those annoying marks, this is something that will work. The kit I got includes a 2 oz cleaner, 3 polishing clothes, and two wet/dry clothes. It is $10. Eh, that is for many uses, not just once. Vivien From hchen@astron.Berkeley.EDU Fri Mar 26 15:44:15 2004 Received: from ral (ral [128.32.92.83]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with SMTP id i2QNiDA29277 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:44:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200403262344.i2QNiDA29277@astron.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 15:44:12 -0800 (PST) From: huei-ru chen Reply-To: huei-ru chen Subject: Klear Screen To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: ip0DosY2r9SgNTzkvh+MsQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.5 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Content-Length: 847 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 268 Sorry that I forgot to mention where "the Mac store" is. It is on Shattuck and a few stores up from the Cal Fed bank at the corner of University and Shattuck. I just found out that the Scholar's Workstation also carries this item at $9.50 ($0.50 cheaper than the Mac store). It is called Klear Screen Starter Kit (with 2 oz spray). They also have Radtech Screensavrz, which is a cloth to put between the keyboard and display. The cloth can also be used for cleaning and polishing. You can stop by my office to see it if you are interested. The size of the cloth is slightly smaller than the LCD panel so I actually got one for 17" and trimed it small for my 15" powerbook. It is easier for Titanium to center but hard for Aluminum. You will have to polish the display surface with patience to remove the keycap marks. Vivien From jhall@sims.berkeley.edu Tue Mar 30 09:15:04 2004 Received: from herald.sims.berkeley.edu (herald.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.90]) by astron.Berkeley.EDU (8.11.7/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i2UHF2x20747 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:15:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (info.SIMS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.226.87]) by herald.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2UHF3wW014138 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from info.sims.berkeley.edu (localhost.Berkeley.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i2UHF3Rd022273 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jhall@localhost) by info.sims.berkeley.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id i2UHF3MF022270 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: info.sims.berkeley.edu: jhall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Reply-To: joehall@pobox.com To: macusers@astron.Berkeley.EDU Subject: neat trackpad app... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1235 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 269 http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/ SideTrack is a replacement driver for the trackpad (touchpad) found on Apple PowerBooks and iBooks. It brings many of the advanced trackpad features found on Windows laptops to MacOS X. SideTrack supports these features: * Vertical